Re: [CR]Maybe too fast or not enough road craft

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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:01:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fred Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Maybe too fast or not enough road craft
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <185616.36557.qm@web25710.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


Willie,
    This seems to be the prevailing attitude in both bicycle racing and motor racng. I.e. it now seems we expect the courses to be adjusted to the racers, rather than the racers learning to adjust to the courses.
     It's a sad situation, but I think the reasons are far beyond the scope of this list. Still, it's quite sad for those of us who love these sports...
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- wilc wrote:


> hi listees,
> too fast???
> on this very note some friends, guys who are experienced
> cyclists and one time handy racers, were chewing over the
> recent TDF.... what a palaver??..
> . we were of the same opinion, the pros currently seem to
> have lost their way in bike handling skills. witness,
> several silly smashes when descending on the wrong line for
> the corner, totally.. again .another by a top seeded pro on a
> city street running too far out on the exit... the last guy
> in my own humble view who demonstrated exemplary bike skills
> was Lance..
> we do however, agree, that the current steeds may not be as
> forgiving harsher less stable straight forks etc but much
> grippier tyres and better brakes.... nevertheless, these guys
> are paid big bucks to be able to manage their machines.
> I was taught to read the road not just 20 ft. ahead but
> 100's of yards ahead.. anyway my 2 cents
> Dale please permit this small OT thread. i am anxious to
> hear the views that come in.. OFF LIST if need be
> willie carton.
> from a wet clammy Coleraine N. Ireland
>
> wesoishi@aol.com wrote:
>
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>
> Considering how many of the local riders/racers can't seem
> to ride without falling (and sometimes hurting themselves,
> really badly), maybe these new aluminum or carbon fiber bikes
> are too fast. In the 70's, we might have been slower with our
> DT shifters and steel bikes, but I can't recall anyone being
> picked up in an ambulance. This is in group rides at Como
> Street and later, Simi Valley (early 80's).
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Wes Oishi
> SoundCycles
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> PS. Ralph Carnevale and April stopped by the other day, on
> their way to the Peterson Auto Museum. Have not seen him
> since he closed Bicycles Pacific. I should have bought that
> black Colnago he had in my size, but I was already maxed out
> buying stuff, when he closed.
>
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