[CR]Bob Jackson dating - please help!

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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:59:34 -0400
From: "David G. White" <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net>
To: coel canth <coelcanth@gmail.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: [CR]Bob Jackson dating - please help!

Please look on my Wooljersey Gallery at my Bob Jackson frame. http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Bob+Jackson/

I emailed with the folks at Bob Jackson and they told me it is from 1954 (click on the first photo to see my email exchange with BJ). But Andrei (see below) raises good points regarding whether this is correct. I simply accepted the judgment of the folks at BJ. Can any of you she light on this?

Thanks!

David

David G. White Burlington, VT

coel canth wrote:
> well i did notice your correspondence in the midst of writing my email
> but i thought perhaps you had some more info..
>
> i guess i am just skeptical but it would be interesting to find my
> frame was much earlier than i thought.. i am sure the dropouts are not
> correct for a pre-1957 bike (or pre-1960s for that matter)
> it seems unlikely that both of our frames were refinished around the
> same time with the same transfers style and same new dropouts..
>
> o well.. i will keep digging and maybe send an email out to the list
> one day soon...
>
> On 9/4/07, *David G. White* <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net
> <mailto:whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrei,
>
> I don't think I can help you much. All I know is what they told me. At
> the time I was very surprised, but I simply accepted their judgment.
>
> Did you read the emails between me and them? See here:
>
> <http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Bob+Jackson/Bob+Jackson+1288+front+view.JPG.html
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/David-G-Whites-Bikes/Bob+Jackson/Bob+Jackson+1288+front+view.JPG.html>
>
> That's really all I know. They seemed to think that the "12" confirmed
> that it had been repainted.
>
> But, who knows?
>
> Wish I could help more.
>
> Best,
>
> David
>
> canth wrote:
> > hello David,
> >
> > browsing through your wooljersey gallery, i noticed with
> interest the
> > photos of your 1954 Bob Jackson... i have a very similar model
> > frameset with a similar serial # and I was quite surprised to learn
> > people consider it an early frame number.. the fellow i purchased it
> > from seeemd quite certain it was a ca. 1974 model and all the dated
> > campy parts corroborated this.. i did not notice any frame
> details to
> > make me suspect it was any earlier than this, especially not two
> > decades so.. in fact, the geometry is rather tight and seems
> > thoroughly modern..
> >
> > do you have any more info on dating your frame ? I have a
> feeling BJ
> > might have confused a period of their records at some point because
> > these serial numbers just don't seem to fit in; my frame bears no
> > refinishing marks or evidence of a repaint.. it is in terrible
> > condition !
> >
> > let me know if you have any ideas,
> > Andrei