RE: [CR]Constructeur----French snobbery, British Constructeurs & "demi-constructeurs"

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:04:12 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CR]Constructeur----French snobbery, British Constructeurs & "demi-constructeurs"
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <770453.82779.qm@web82209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I think this entirely misses the point with respect to how the term Constructeur was understood in France. I think some of these discussions confuse Constructeur and Manufacturer. They're not the same thing.

Please re-read Dirk Feeken's message from earlierthis morning for a good explanation:

http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10701.1110.eml
Fred Rednor
Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:


> I was about to suggest the same thing, although I suspect few
> would call them a constructeur. Lambert's aren't
> particularly valuable, probably because some of the unique
> parts didn't turn out very well. The aluminum forks were
> known to break, the sleeve at the center of the bars
> sometimes worked loose, the Lambert copy of the Huret Svelto
> RD didn't shift as well as the original, and the non-tapered
> BB axle often allowed the cranks to aome loose. Still worth
> owning one, IMHO, just as an example of a bold is not very
> successful venture. Kind of like owning a well preserved
> Edsel, I guess
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Tx
>
>
>
> "Silver, Mordecai" <MSilver@iso.com> wrote:
> Would a Lambert be considered a constructeur bicycle? It
> had
> proprietary pedals, handlebar, stem, brakes, cranks,
> derailleurs, hubs,
> and bottom bracket, so it does fit Jan Heine's definition
> that "a
> constructeur actually builds the entire bike, including
> proprietary
> components and others that are modified for the purpose."
>
> Are Lambert components worth anything today on eBay? Any
> Lambert
> collectors out there?
>
> Mordecai Silver
> NYC

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