<< I've always thought that the Campagnolo Victory and Triomphe (and
C-Record as well) weren't introduced until 1986, as the #18 Catalogue (printed
1985) shows not a mention of them at all. >> I myself am not sure about exact dates... but philosophically, I think Campagnolo Victory and Triomphe fit better after the CR cutoff.
In other words, it was that period in which Valentino Campagnolo "did his own thing", introducing new, marginally engineered components and started phasing out his dad's stuff (GS, NR & SR).
I view Campagnolo Victory and Triomphe as the beginning of an embarassing period (including "C-Record") and it took at least ten years, plus or minus for them to get out of the slump. Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA
-----Original Message----- From: dbilenkey@sympatico.ca To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 7:52 PM Subject: [CR]Borderline off-topic Campagnolo Victory and Triomphe question
Now Dale, before you go giving me the heave-ho, please indulge me this question of our esteemed members. It is Campagnolo and it is non-aero and friction shifting. :-)
Replies off-list though if you please so as to keep me out of hot water!
Having gotten into a long winded email discussion with a eBay seller about these cranks:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/
Trying to convince him they were Triomphe and not Victory, got us to his assertion that his 1984 Gitane (see borderline to the cut-off date) came with this equipment and me saying he must have his dates off. He pointed to this catalogue pic:
http://www.gitaneusa.com/
I've always thought that the Campagnolo Victory and Triomphe (and C-Record as well) weren't introduced until 1986, as the #18 Catalogue (printed 1985) shows not a mention of them at all. And then in this discussion he points me to:
and specifically:
http://campybike.com/
So this has me questioning a large part of my memory, and has me about to haul out boxes and boxes of Bicycling, Winning and Cyclist magazines to figure out when this stuff actually came out.
Can those who have data and recollection about when Victory and Triomphe were available please drop me a line (off-line) and either back me up or shoot me down?
Thank you,
Now back to your regularly scheduled CR discussion...
David -- David Bilenkey Ottawa, Ontario, Canada dbilenkey@sympatico.ca