Re: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike?

(Example: Framebuilders:Mario Confente)

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:59:12 +0100
From: "Freek Faro" <khun.freek@gmail.com>
To: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike?
In-Reply-To: <45AA178A.7080004@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <C1CFB2C8.31A82%simonpj@mac.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Velo (French monthly) of April 1981 has a huge Reynolds advertisement on the back ('regardez-les bien ...' ). It's the one with all the different decals in use at the time. It has a Speedstream decal too, in English, which sets it apart from the others that are in French.

Freek Faro Rotterdam Netherlands

2007/1/14, Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
> I also think that the 1.82 on your bike confirms it as Jan 1982 - with
> frame numbers often assumptions are made about coding but in this case I
> am sure there is no doubt. Speedstream tubing was available from the
> early 80s; certainly not in 1976.
>
> Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
>
> Simon PJ wrote:
> > Many thanks Derek. 1982 makes much more sense.
> >
> > Wyndham Pulman-Jones
> > Girton, Cambs., UK
> >
> > On 14/1/07 05:02, "bit_eimer" <bit_eimer@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Wyndham,
> >>
> >> I was watching that E-B Favori, but decided the shipping to the States
> would
> >> likely be prohibitive. As to your question, sending a note to E-B will
> most
> >> assuredly give you a specific date - that's what I did. For reference,
> my
> >> three E-Bs are:
> >>
> >> 5789 - San Remo Super built 15/11/82
> >>
> >> 5245 - San Remo Super built 12/1/76
> >>
> >> 5093 - San Remo built 19/11/74
> >>
> >> Although mine are E-Bs, not Favori, I'd bet that the serial numbers
> were
> >> shared between the two lines and that your 5720 places it squarely in
> 1982.
> >>
> >> ...Derek Davis, Phoenix
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Simon PJ [mailto:simonpj@mac.com]
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:17 AM
> >>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >>> Subject: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike?
> >>>
> >>> I have posted some quickly taken photos of a recently acquired Ellis-
> >>> Briggs
> >>> 'Favori' brand bike built in 531 SpeedStream:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/simonpj/EB-Favori/
> >>>
> >>> The person that sold me the bike (the original owner) dated the frame
> at
> >>> 1976, but that sounds early for an aero tubed bike. The Super Record
> rear
> >>> mech is from 1977 but could easily pre-date the frame.
> >>>
> >>> You'll see that the frame is currently wearing an eclectic mix of
> parts.
> >>> I'd
> >>> like to fit it out with period correct parts reflecting the aero
> intention
> >>> of the frame - so would like to establish whether it really does date
> back
> >>> to 1976 or it's in fact from the early eighties. Which, for example,
> would
> >>> help decide whether Shimano AX parts would be appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> Do you know of any online sources about this early aero era?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Wyndham Pulman-Jones
> >>> Girton, Cambs., UK.