Has anyone ever tried to CALL Baron? It looks like the phone number for Cafe de Velo is 805-966-6510. I've had nothing but good dealing with Baron and Cecile but I never expect great communication or prompt service. For those of you that have never been to Santa Barbara I must tell you that it's easy to lose time there just watching the swells come in while walking barefoot on the beach in the winter. When M and I remember our 3 years there it's always with a smile. best, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives Vancouver, B.C.
On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:20 PM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> Here's the deal. (...in my highly speculative opinion)
>
> They are great, sincere, enthusiastic folks who FAIL TO COMMUNICATE!
>
> And who have gotten in over their heads..
>
> Just like a few other CR sellers, they promise more than they can
> deliver, out of optimism and naivete, not dishonesty. But then,
> when they are waaay behind and unable to deliver as promised,
> instead of communication, they have dodged it all, thinking they
> "would catch up soon and everything will then be OK."
>
> So a few of you have had a bad experience.
>
> My advice, keep cutting them some slack and they will eventually
> come through. Remind them nicely and things will be OK. Get abusive
> (as you may think you have the right) and things go to hell in a
> hand basket fast...
>
> I am telling you folks, it just ain't easy being a retailer! :)
> Dale Brown
> cycles de ORO, Inc.
> 1410 Mill Street
> Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA
> 336.274.5959
> http://www.cyclesdeoro.com
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nipponcomet@wmconnect.com
> To: cgallegro@charter.net; Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Baron and Cecile Corpuz
>
> sorry for the bummer craig...as a former bicycle shop owner i
> would say that
> there are some basic tenets that apply to all business(men,
> people,women)....be they sellers over the internet or at a bricks
> and mortar
> operation....when
> i first read the lengthy email the "baron" posted to this site
> about bringing
> a container of parts to america (lots of goodies mentioned) i was
> skeptical of
> what he claimed he woulld be able to do...i think he started off on
> the wrong
> foot... w/ grabbing people to help him load the container deep into
> the
> night, he himself suffering injury...his description of the "help"
> sounded to me
>
> that he didn't really know everyone all that well and he was
> rushing to jam
> everything in to meet a deadline. he didn't paint a very organized
> picture of
> his
> move w/ tons of valuables, many seeming to be bundles of tires but
> lots of
> small stuff...who knows if everything actually made it into the
> container, and
> maybe those are parts he is scratching his head over now and can't
> deliver...he
> himself could have been a victim of a swindle, discovered long
> after the
> culprits vanished into the night...BUT, that does not relieve him
> of his
> obligation
> to be forthright w/ us...of those that have said they have just
> given up i am
> curious....did you place an order, send money, and not receive your
> goods???...or did you place an order, and merely have not received
> your goods???
> there
> is a hugh difference between the two that is not being made clear
> enough for
> me to cast this couple to "bicycle hell"....are they old, confused,
> and basicly
> overwhelmed w/ the job they signed up for???...or are they selectively
> ripping people off for 50 bucks here and 50 bucks there???... that
> i would like
> to
> know so that we can take a chance w/ them or not,#1 based on
> whether they are
> stealing money, or #2 are poor business people who lose email
> addresses, don't
> return email inquieries, but generally would fall into the
> organizationally
> challenged catagory but good meaning...i've had to deal w/ a few
> stinker ebay
> sellers over the years but mostly people want to keep their
> feedback at or near
> 100%....for us i think that if their are those among us that don't
> treat us
> right, they should be identified after going thru channels
> ( another job for
> dale)....personally i like to look at and handle the goods before i
> lay my
> mostly
> nonexistent cash on the barrel head....or, at least have the right
> of return
> w/ full refund if something arrives thru the post that isn't quite
> right or as
> described.... otherwise why let anyone offer goods to each other
> at this
> forum....it's one thing for people here to get worked up over frame
> angles and
> what they mean, and quite another to misrepresent sale items,
> collect money
> from one another, and refusal to make good on an item someone wants
> to return
> for
> refund but can't. either we adhere to basic good business practice
> w/ one
> another or i say let the buyer beware, tuff if you get ripped here
> at the CR
> forum.....who wants that??? what's bad for one is bad for us
> all...if the
> "baron" gets support here it's from someone who has gotten his
> stuff...that
> does'nt
> count, that's what he's supposed to do!!!... but if people here are
> actually
> sending $$$ and hearing nothing back but excuses than that should
> be known to
> us all....it takes the "baron" to bring out other stories that i've
> heard,
> we've all heard, off list, about those among us that behave poorly.
> i'm not an
> angel and have bought my share of things that seemed priced too low
> to be true (
>
> i didn't say hey, you know you could get triple for this. leastwise
> not
> before i bought and took home a super deal )...so what ARE we talking
> about???...did he take your money and give you an excuse instead of
> what you
> ordered?...or
> is he just an irresponsible ebusiness man? i for one, would like to
> know
> before i fall prey to a stinker. charlie flaherty baltimore
> maryland usa
>
>
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