Re: [CR]ebay outing: interesting Pogliaghi

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]ebay outing: interesting Pogliaghi
To: Classic Rendezvous Bike List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <73706f460710120535r8894bub3a7300abdae9c4d@mail.gmail.com>


I liked the world championship decals that are on the seat tube and stem, so I asked the seller about them and he said the bike came that way (same for the dice). Does anybody have a source for those decals?

Ray Dobbins Miami FL USA

Wayne Bingham <blkmktbks@gmail.com> wrote: While I can often appreciate detailing similar to what's been done on this particular bike, this seems like a classic case of "more is always better, and too much is never enough". All those little "extra" details need to work work together with the overall "look" of the bike. Nevertheless, I still have to applaud the thinking that motivated the builder, even if the execution doesn't really work (at least for me). I've been "pimping" and personalizing bikes in a similar fashion for as long as I can remember. Over the years, I've used almost every trick done on the Pog in one form or another, but never all of them at one time. And I've also done some things that even this person didn't think of. More often than not, I've been complimented on the detailing I've done on the bikes I've built, and often been asked about how to do it or why I though of it. An appropriately placed sticker, a little paint fill, an anodized bit here or there can often add to the overall aesthetic. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. So, now I've decided that I'm going to create an album in my Wool Jersey gallery dedicated to this type of detailing. It won't happen tomorrow, but I'll get to it. Stay tuned.

Wayne Bingham Lovettsville VA USA

On 10/10/07, chasds@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> Now that this bike has rocketed past my limit, I thought it'd be fun to
> out it and have a little discussion about it.
>
> For those who haven't seen it:
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> I especially like all the little paint details. And notice the little
> dice on the ends of the brake cables! As well as the cool little Pogliaghi
> sticker on the fork. I've never seen that before. Also, note the
> Campagnolo graphic on the down-tube. I've seen those on backing, but never
> on a bike.
>
> Note also that you can just see the stamped serial number in the
> head-lug...suggests it's one of the last "authentic" pogliaghis.
>
> The wheels are hideous, but, hey, you can't have everything. That hasn't
> stopped the interested parties from having at it, though. I hate red, and
> even I was thinking of bidding on it..too rich for my blood, now.
>
> I can't help wondering if this isn't a repaint. The lug cut-out fill
> seems *way* too good to be factory. I've seen a few of these, of this late
> vintage, in original paint, and I've never seen fill that consistent, or
> that tidy. Usually it looks like someone did it at 4pm on a Friday, after
> an early start on the weekend..
>
> If it is original, it's a very nice job. and if it's a repaint, it's an
> even nicer job! If the main paint is original, you wonder if all that
> paint-detail was original too. It looks professional enough that it might
> be. Early 80s Pogliaghis had some interesting details like this..if this is
> early 80s, and it appears to be, based on that fastback seat-stay
> arrangement...If the paint decoration is after-market, someone did a really
> good job with it.
>
> The world stripes on the seatpost and stem, and the Cinelli sticker on the
> stem, are all nice touches too. All-in-all, an entertaining example of how
> to pimp out your mannerist italian steed to make it your own.
>
> I'm thinkin' I'm gonna decorate my own Pogliaghi this way, when I get
> around to it. Pretty nifty.
>
> good luck to whoever's bidding on it, if you're here.
>
> (for the record, it's too rich for me, but if you didn't have one of
> these, and you like red, 2K+ doesn't seem out of line, even with those
> disgusting off-topic rims..)
>
> Charles Andrews
> Los Angeles