Re: [CR]Dating the Binda straps on the 72 Super

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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:19:00 -0600
From: "Mitch Harris" <mitch.harris@gmail.com>
To: "Raymond Dobbins" <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Dating the Binda straps on the 72 Super
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On 10/21/07, Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mitch, I think you are correct. A few people have written off-list about
> this, and they have mentioned that the Extra was the one with the sandwiched
> laminate. So the Super would be the one with the one with the laminate on
> one side only. So, the question is now, which one was the top of the line,
> the Extra or the Super. I would guess the sandwiched Extra, which is sort
> of counter-intuitive.

I agree about the sandwiched extra being the top one, for two reasons. The first (weak) reason is that the sandwiched one is the one I saw on all the top bikes; even in the early 80s fitting out a Super Record super bike when you wanted to put the best straps on your SL pedals, you chose those greyish-tan Extras. One possibility: maybe the exposed leather on top just looked like better quality and the exposed woven grain made the Super look like a cheaper nylon toestrap rather than the fine Binda it is.

The second (less weak) reason is that when Binda offered their top line Prestige strap with the wider section in the buckle area, they based it on the Extra not the Super, and used two leather layers sandwiching the laminate.

http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pedalmuseum.straps

Mitch Harris Little Rock Canyon, UT
>
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami FL USA
>
> Mitch Harris <mitch.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/20/07, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > <<...the Binda straps...>>
> >
> >
> >
> > IIRC, those are Binda Supers which I think came out mid 1970s. I am pretty
> sure I bought and use those arounfd 1975 so they are not far off...
> > ?
> > FWIW, Binda straps were available three variations:
> > - "Regular" which was plain leather and came in colors including red,
> blue, brown, yellow, white and ?
> > - "Extra" had black plasticky laminate on outside of one side only. They
> came in black or natural/whitish.
> > - "Super" had the laminate sandwiched between two layers of tan leather.
>
> Isn't this reversed? Pretty sure the extra is the one with the
> sandwiched laminate and the Super has the black laminte on the outside
> of one side only.
>
> --Mitch Harris
> Little Rock Canyon, UT