[CR]EDOARDO BIANCHI ORIGINAL HEAD BADGE BLUE

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

From: "Giorgio Panciroli" <info@vintagetransfers.it>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <MONKEYFOODftzWbXXbQ00001965@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:35:40 +0100
Organization: Vintage Transfers
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Subject: [CR]EDOARDO BIANCHI ORIGINAL HEAD BADGE BLUE

Hello all, I have put in auction on ebay Bianchi Edoardo Original headbadge. If you want you can see it on: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150177285659

All the best

Giorgio Panciroli
Reggio Emilia
Italia
info@vintagetransfers.it


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> 1. Re: WTB: Simplex Retrofriction Shifter Band-On (Fred Rednor)
> 2. Re: books, 24 (Marc St. Martin)
> 3. Best Book (robert meade)
> 4. 3Rensho Katana/S Frame, Fork; Sugino 75 Parts For Sale
> (randy dugan)
> 5. for sale..13-26 sachs malliard french freewheel
> 6. re: Rim info dates (Terry Farrant)
> 7. WTB Campagnolo brake parts: clamp bolt washer and cable clamp
> bolt
> 8. re:Rim intro dates (Terry Farrant)
> 9. Dura Ace 7400, back to OT (Harry Schwartzman)
> 10. Is this the end for fat tubulars? (Robert Anderson)
> 11. Re: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud (bruce thomson)
> 12. Re: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud (Noah John Gellner)
> 13. HURET Jubilee, what is the actual weight?? (bruce thomson)
> 14. Re: Dura-Ace brakes...
> 15. RE: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:09:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Fred Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
> To: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>,
> Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]WTB: Simplex Retrofriction Shifter Band-On
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> Peter,
> Have you tried a Campagnolo mounting screw? I've had
> Simplex and Huret levers whose mounting screws were the same
> threading as Campagnolo. The catch was the length. Campagnolo
> screws come in 2 lengths and the French things needed the
> longer screw (which is probably what everyone has these days
> anyway). Of course, there is always the possibility that
> Simplex was really diabolical and used 5mm x .75mm threaded
> fasteners, such as the ones used by TA.
> If this thing remains a puzzle for too long, I recommend
> calling Mel Pinto Imports in Falls Church, Va. Mel has an
> encyclopedic knowledge of this sort of thing, and usually has
> the little bits somewhere in his warehouse.
> Bon courage,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net> wrote:
>
>> It really is true: Edvard Munch's inspiration for "The
>> Scream" were the
>> words "French" and "Threading" in the same sentence.
>>
>> Seems Simplex's retrofriction shifters have a different
>> threaded or
>> sized mounting screw that doesn't work with their other
>> band-on mounts
>> like for the Criteriums.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> Does any have a band-on mounting for retrofriction shifters
>> OR a
>> complete lever/band assemby (either solid or open tear drop
>> levers) they would like to sell?
>>
>> Please contact me off list before I run out of my vocabulary
>> of French
>> invectives.
>>
>> Peter Kohler
>> Washington DC USA
>>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:15:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net>
> To: john strizek <lyonstrings@yahoo.com>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]books, 24
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> Hi John,
>
> Regarding obtaining 24" aero rims, try Yellow Jersey in Madison WI. They
> have (had?) a cache of Araya aero rims in 24" Used one on my Raleigh
> pursuit bike. Good luck and good hunting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc St. Martin
> Livermore, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: john strizek <lyonstrings@yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Oct 29, 2007 9:05 AM
>>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: [CR]books, 24"rim, only 2mm
>>
>> 1. The books I have enjoyed besides Eugene Sloane's book and
>> Sutherland's are: 1. Between My Legs; a story of cross country cycling
>> in the seventies, 2. Bicycle Manifesto; only marred by the use of
>> gratuitous cursing, and 3. The bicycle in war.
>>
>> 2. Is it difficult to find a narrow alloy 24" rim? I am looking at a
>> "funny bike." Would it be sacrilege to use a 26" fork and rim? I
>> certainly understand the change in steering geometry that would result.
>> After all, at my advanced age I am not racing anyone. I would slow doewn
>> the steering and bring up the front end a bit. I just thought it might be
>> fun to have one, in racing trim it is the most uncomfortable rider I can
>> imagine.
>>
>> 3. One more thing; Is there any reasonable source for victory/triomphe
>> chainrings? I have considered modifying some old ofmega rings. the BCD is
>> 2mm difference. In radius that is only 1mm difference.
>> Thank you for reading and happy trails,
>> J. E. 'Jack' Strizek, Sacratomato California USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:23:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: robert meade <rmeadeee@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Best Book
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> Hello list members, I have two favorite bicycle books I would like to
> recommend. Number 1 is Barnetts bicycle manual by John Barnett, anyone
> interested in bicycles and bicycle mechanics this is loaded with
> information, both basic and complex. I have an older copy I actually
> printed off a bike forum site. This book gives just about every scenario
> a bicycle mechanic could come across and it also gives examples of brands
> and models of components. The second book is Bicycle Mechanics in
> workshop and competition by Steve Snowling and Ken Evans. Lots of good
> pictures. It covers all components and systems of the bicycle in the shop
> and on the road.
>
> both good reads
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:32:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: randy dugan <rsdugan@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]3Rensho Katana/S Frame, Fork; Sugino 75 Parts For Sale
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> Hello all,
>
> I don't seem to be getting any shorter, so I am selling my 3Rensho
> Katana/S, as pictured at:
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Randy+Dugan/3renshokatanas/
>
> The seat tube is 56cm C-C; Top Tube is 55.5cm C-C. There are numerous
> detail photos and descriptions on the Wool Jersey page. Each is
> expandable to full size for best detail viewing. Please note I am not
> selling the complete bike as pictured; of the pictured items, here's
> what's for sale:
>
> - Katana/S Frame, Fork, Tange Levin Headset, Kalloy 27.2x350mm Seatpost,
> generic binder bolt: $350
>
> - Sugino 75 Road Crank Arms, Sugino 53/39 Rings, Chrome Sugino Crank
> Bolts, Campy ACH BB, generic dust caps (not pictured). Please see the
> description for info on why this crank is paired with this BB: $50
>
> - Sugino 75 Front Derailleur, Braze-On: $35
>
> - 3Rensho Crossbow Saddle, Crazy-Rare: $75
>
> - Suntour Superbe Rear Derailleur: $40
>
> - 1st Generation Specialized Racing Pedals by MKS, "Track" style, no clips
> or straps: $35
>
> - Or, all of the above for $475
>
> Note that the calipers, brake levers, shifters, bars, stem, bottle cages,
> wheels, freewheel and hoods are already spoken for.
>
> Paypal preferred. Prices do not include shipping, which will be at cost.
> Please contact me offlist at rsdugan(AT)yahoo.com
>
> Thanks for looking,
> Randy Dugan
> Van Nuys, CA USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:33:08 EDT
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]for sale..13-26 sachs malliard french freewheel
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> greetings
>
> good used shape
>
> $20.00 shipped u.s.
>
> thanks
> robbie fellows
> lakewood,ca.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:37:32 -0700
> From: Terry Farrant <tgf1@shaw.ca>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]re: Rim info dates
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> although i do believe the Mavic site and their 1975 into date of the
> module 'e' i have found one of the sites from which i had gotten the
> 1983 date, here is what is said on http://www.ebykr.com :
>
> 1983 ushered in a major advancement in tire/wheel design, piloted by
> Mavic and Michelin. Mavic designed the first double-hook rim, which
> allowed use of Michelin's Elan tire; the combination made mounting and
> dismounting tires much easier, sending the old method of glued, tubular
> tires into the realm of racing's high-end or old-school connoisseur's
> favorite "I remember when" stories. The hook-type rims not only made
> changing tires and tubes extremely easier, but it also eliminated the
> risk of accidents by faulty gluing jobs or tires simply loosening from
> the rim. For recreational riders and racers alike, this advancement was
> revolutionary, convenient, and time-saving.
>
> terry farrant
> vancouver island, B.C.
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:42:16 EDT
> From: LEM321@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB Campagnolo brake parts: clamp bolt washer and cable clamp
> bolt
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> Hi folks,
>
> Looking for some spare parts to complete a NOS Campagnolo brake set.
> Anyone
> have clamp bolt washers (no. 2004) and cable clamp bolts (2008). Looking
> for two of each and prefer NOS although excellent condition okay too.
> Please
> replay off-list with prices, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilson Lem
> San Francisco
>
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>
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:44:00 -0700
> From: Terry Farrant <tgf1@shaw.ca>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]re:Rim intro dates
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>
> and another site that mentions the same thing: http://www.cycle.ie
>
> 1983. Module E, a tire rim with hooks, enters the cycling history book.
> The first rim with double 'hook' bridge to seat a high-pressure tire
> developed by Michelin: the Elan. With this patented concept, Mavic
> started developing a new generation of rims for tires that rapidly
> benefited from all of Mavic's technological innovations. In the
> cycle-racing world the use of tubular tires gradually declines in favor
> of tires .
>
> terry farrant
> vancouver island B.C.
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Harry Schwartzman <harryschwartzman@yahoo.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Dura Ace 7400, back to OT
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> One thing about 7400 is that it is a stylistic copy of Super Record. So it
> looks like an OT groupo but it clicks! I like it very much myself. Also,
> th
> e Shimano brake levers have always fit my hand perfectly in a way that no
> o
> ther brake lever ever has.=0A=0AAnd as long as we're in this era... I've
> ne
> ver had problem with my Delta brakes... maybe because I have Crotch D'one
> (
> I know, I know Croce D'Aune) but I find that i have WAY more brake power
> th
> an I need. With the advent of dual pivot brakes I feel like roadies have
> fo
> rgotten that brakes are there to slow you down... not stop you.=0A=0AHarry
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:57:30 -0400
> From: "Robert Anderson" <rcanderson58@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Is this the end for fat tubulars?
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> I was just on the yellowjersey.org site to purchase a few Challenge Paris
> Roubaix tubulars where I got the disturbing news that the tires have been
> discontinued. Additionally, on the same site, there was this bit of sad
> news, A. Dugast has closed.
>
> If this is true it is really too bad.
>
> Rob Anderson,
> Brooklyn, NY
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: bruce thomson <masi3v4me@yahoo.com>
> To: Rodney Kugizaki <kugi@comcast.net>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud
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> Charles: I have had similar, but less dramatic incidences of the same
> scenario. Basically the best thing to do right away is file a dispute.
> You have only 20 days to do this and the potentially fraudulent sell knows
> this too. No matter if the seller says the package has been shipped or
> not, FILE!! You can later close the dispute with no penalty to you of
> the seller, but if things still don't happen then the dispute can be
> escalated to a claim. Its the CLAIM that will get your funds back.
> Bruce
>
> Rodney Kugizaki <kugi@comcast.net> wrote: Charles,
> I had a similar experience, have you contacted e-bay and paypal? They
> were very helpful and eventually, I got my payment back. Paypal has
> a process to use for issues.
>
> What sort of rating did the seller have? My mistake was buying from
> someone that essentially had no (significant) history.
>
> Rodney Kugizaki
> Oro Valley, AZ
>
>
>
>>
>>Sender: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>
>>I recently bought a nice colnago super on ebay, and I paid with cash
>>from my paypal account. No credit card payment on this one.
>>
>>Now, it seems very likely that the seller was a scammer, and the sale
>>was a fraud. Since I won the auction, I have heard nothing at all from
>>the seller, after payment, and after repeated e-mails asking for
>>confirmation of payment
>>
>>This is just the second time this has happened to me. The first time
>>involved a european seller. I had paid by credit card, though, so my
>>credit card company got the money back for me.
>>
>>This time, I may be s-o-l. I'm posting for the collective wisdom of the
>>list. What would be the best way for me to get my money back? I'm
>>going to start with PayPal, but I'm not very confident they'll be much
>>help. What are my other options?
>>
>>The seller invoice did include a street address, and I'll be sending
>>snail mail there today. But, you see, I have no idea if the seller
>>listed on the invoice is in fact the person who got the money, although
>>everything looked on the up-and-up, both on ebay, and on paypal.
>>
>>any tips on what I might do next would be appreciated. Makes me feel,
>>increasingly, that I'm not going to buy higher-priced items from anyone
>>I don't know in some way, either personally or by reputation..
>>
>>Please mail any useful tips privately.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Charles Andrews
>>Los Angeles
>>
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>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:23:25 -0400
> From: "Noah John Gellner" <ngellner@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud
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> I know that the seller hasn't been responsive, but I'd send a final
> warning
> explaining that you are going to file a dispute and, if necessary,
> escalate
> that to a claim. I think it is a courtesy that can keep the temperature
> down. You never know why the seller isn't being responsive. Buyers that
> file against me first and asked questions later get banned.
>
> On 10/29/07, bruce thomson <masi3v4me@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Charles: I have had similar, but less dramatic incidences of the same
>> scenario. Basically the best thing to do right away is file a dispute.
>> You have only 20 days to do this and the potentially fraudulent sell
>> knows
>> this too. No matter if the seller says the package has been shipped or
>> not,
>> FILE!! You can later close the dispute with no penalty to you of the
>> seller, but if things still don't happen then the dispute can be
>> escalated
>> to a claim. Its the CLAIM that will get your funds back. Bruce
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: bruce thomson <masi3v4me@yahoo.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]HURET Jubilee, what is the actual weight??
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>
> Frenchies and Francophiles! I have just been asked a question that I know
> not the answer to . I have seen reference to the Huret Jubilee being the
> lightest dérailleur made. But what is the actual weight? The ones that
> had no drilling and the one that did? I have done a web search and most
> of the searches come up with "yup, its the lightest dérailleur made!"
> And thats it! Anyone have one and have held on to one of those old
> dope....er postal scales? Bruce
> ice
>
>
> Bruce Thomson Spokane WA 99204
> (509) 747 4314
> Masi3v4me@yahoo.com
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:40:40 EDT
> From: Stronglight49@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] Re: Dura-Ace brakes...
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> Tom Dalton noted a goof in my notes, one perhaps worth
> mentioning as an example of the continued R&D which Shimano
> poured into their products. The 10% commitment of their resources
> to development was noted as one factor in their defeat of Suntour.
>
> Thanks Tom! - You're absolutely right. Good call:
>
> The 7400 was from 1986 and it's the 7402 specs dated 8/88.
>
> The only difference I can see between the two is the addition of a
> nylon or plastic cylindrical anti-friction "sleeve" on the end of the
> return spring for the later model - just as you'll find carried over
> onto the 7700 & 7800 series well into this century (perhaps even
> the current models, but I've not checked them).
>
> The 7400 had similar "U" shaped inserts on the caliper arms,
> but these were open. I think the enclosed sleeves actually
> produce a "self-cleaning" effect where the others could still
> allow build-up of grit at these pivot points - just the same as
> bare alloy against the steel springs of the very oldest side-pulls
> had permitted. And I think the friction at this point is the main
> reason why single pivot side-pulls always seem to go out of
> adjustment and ultimately cause one pad to touch the rim
> slightly before the other.
>
> The Model 7403 was issued in late 1989... these were first
> Shimano "Dual Pivot" style calipers.
>
> BOB HANSON, ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO, USA
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com writes:
>
> BR-7400 Brake calipers --- Last single pivot brakes [08/88]
>
> There was a model with an improved brake pad (7401?) and then
> a later version with the SLR spring, called 7402, I think.
> That was the last single pivot. As a friend called it,
> "The ultimate evolution of the side-pull caliper."
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:42:50 -0700
> From: <d-gordon@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud
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> Charles:
> How responsive was the guy BEFORE the auction ended? Please let us know
> the details, to help us in future similar situations. I have often
> emailed
> the seller and if he does not respond well, I will not bid. If the item is
> expensive, I start looking harder for red flags like hotmail or other
> generic email addresses that they can easily hide behind. It's hard to
> explain, but it's a whole lot of things that add up to a suspicious
> seller.
> And I will not pay them if they are unresponsive. I also pull their seller
> information and look for suspicious things, like a non-working phone
> number.
> By the way, did you do any of that? Again, sorry for your loss.
>
> -Dee Gordon
> Los Angeles
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
>> Noah John Gellner
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 12:23 PM
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [CR]possible ebay fraud
>>
>> I know that the seller hasn't been responsive, but I'd send a
>> final warning explaining that you are going to file a dispute
>> and, if necessary, escalate that to a claim. I think it is a
>> courtesy that can keep the temperature down. You never know
>> why the seller isn't being responsive. Buyers that file
>> against me first and asked questions later get banned.
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