Re: [CR]Re: Derny

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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:18:42 -0500
From: James Swan <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Derny
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To: Fred Rednor <>
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cc: Classicrendezvous <>

Here is how we did it in the Big Apple:

Jamie Swan Centerport Cycles Inc. Northport, N.Y. (mapped)

On Nov 10, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Fred Rednor wrote:
>> <> wrote:
>>> No, Dernys do not have a roller -
>> Perhaps not typically (?) but I've ridden a lot of miles
>> behind different dernys that were fitted with rollers in
>> back.
> Perhaps the bone of contention here is that there are the
> orginal dernies, made in France by the Derny brothers, and
> there are "generic dernies" made by others. It's like Kleenex
> and kleenex, or Hoover and hoover. (Or bespoke vs. Bespoke,
> for that matter.) Perhaps none of this will make sense, unless
> you are both a native English speaker and a long time member of
> the CR list. (If you're confused, I can explain off-list.)
> Anyway, not only did the original dernies - built by the Derny
> brothers - not have rollers, but the photographs I've seen
> indicate that many (if not all?) of the true Derny machines did
> not have any rear bumper. What made them specially adapted to
> stayer racing was that the driver's position is far back and
> upright, in order to provide the maximum amount of draft for
> the following cyclist.
> Cheers,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)