Re: [CR]Fwd: Reusing spokes

Example: Events:Cirque du Cyclisme:2007

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:43:35 -0800 (PST)
From: David Feldman <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Fwd: Reusing spokes
To: "robert st.cyr" <>

Reuse of spokes--which I do very, very rarely--depends on the previous use and age of spokes, whether a front or rear wheel, and how many speeds! I w ould not ever want to reuse spokes that had been on the drive side of a mod ern 130mm spaced lots o'gears rear wheel--it's an application with too much
   tension and I'd be wary of the fatigue from detensioning and retensioning that would be involved. If it's a customer wheel I won't reuse spokes due to the need to warranty the work--I'm guaranteeing the work using parts who se history I don't know. A front wheel for my own use? No problem--one of
   my own wheels is in it's third rim, same hub and spokes. Some parts reall y, truly are one-use parts as much as many would wish otherwise. David Fe ldman Vancouver, WA

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From: robert st.c

yr <> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikeli> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:28:24 PM Subject: RE: [CR]Fwd : Reusing spokes

> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:25:44 -0800> From: tom> To:> Subject: [CR]Fw d: Reusing spokes> > > Why i s this practice frowned upon? > > At least i n a shop setting, this practice is frowned upon because it takes more tim e. It's hard enough to get people to pay a fair price for wheel builds, a nd I suspect that the whole "never reuse spokes" thing was started by sh ops that had no interest in trying to pry another ten bucks out of a cus tomer for the time required to unthread a ll the spokes. Even if this tim e is paid for, once it is done there are sti ll so many problems. If the spokes are old an fatigued and one breaks in th e first 1,000 miles it wi ll be "the shop's fault." If the spokes are the wr ong length for the new rim you need to call the customer with disappointing news. Or, maybe the y were the wrong length to begin with, but the kid doin g the service wri ting is clueless about the whole matter. > > As for doing this at home, it's no big problem. Spokes do fatigue with use, so I wouldn' t bother re using spokes from a well-used wheel, but if it's a new wheel and the rim went to an early grave, go ahead and resuse the spokes. In fact, p roper disassembly of a wheel requires letting out the tension evenly, maybe a h alf turn at a time, all the way around. Only at that point should you c u t away the old spokes, and by then it's not much harder to completely unsc

rew the nipples (particularly if you use an electric drill). Unfortunatl ey, many (most?) shop mechanics take the quick route by cutting down full y ten sioned wheels. This really puts a lot of stress on the hub flange, and the rim too. If either part is to be reused, and presumably one is o r you'd jus t toss the whole wheel, you should not cut the fully-tesnione d spokes. > > Tom Dalton> Bethlehem, PA USA> > ------------------------- --------> Never m iss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > ---------- -------------------- ---> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. M ake Yahoo! your homepag e.> > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME part s ---> multipart/alternati ve> text/plain (text body -- kept)> text/html>
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