Re: [CR]Paramount P-13 vs P-15

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From: "Matthew T Churches" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Paramount P-13 vs P-15
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:53:20 -0500


The P13 and P15 Paramounts materials were the same of that era (Nervex lugs and Reynolds 531 frame with Campagnolo droupouts). The P15 came set up as a triple crank and often with centerpull brakes, 27" clincher wheelsets, a wider range freewheel and different rear derailleur. The P15 also has eyelets on the front and rear were the P13 does not.

I want a P15 to go with the P13 (two right now) and the P14 I currently own.

Matt Churches Ann Arbor, MI

David G. White writes:
> I'm researching the differences between the P-13 and P-15 circa 1972. The
> Waterford website has a Paramount history that includes the following:
> Paramounts grew to five models:
> * P-10 - Deluxe Paramount - designed for non-competition road riding
> and included front and rear eyelets, 27 x 1 1/4" clincher tires
> and Weinmann center pull brakes. It usually came with Campagnolo
> Record components. You could order it with Campy side pulls and/or
> custom geometry as an option.
> * P-11 - Paramount Tourist - designed for upright bars and
> recreational rides. It was available on a special order basis
> only. The ladies version was designated P61.
> * P-12 - This was the old designator for the Paramount Racer - now
> becoming the P10.
> * P-13 - Road Racing Paramount - designed for competition, this
> model came with tubulars and Campy sidepulls stock.
> * P-14 - Track - Full Campy track components including wide flange
> hubs and tubular tired wheels.
> * P-15 - Deluxe Paramount with 15 speeds (triple front chainrings).
> Start with the P-10 and add a wide gear range (generally a Shimano
> or Huret) long cage derailleur.
> My question is: circa 1972 was there any difference between the frame of
> the P-13 and the P-15 (tubing, geometry, etc)? Or were the differences
> solely with regard to the equipment with which the bike was built?
> Best,
> David
> David G. White
> Burlington, VT