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From: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>
To: "'Angel Garcia'" <veronaman@gmail.com>, "'CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:01:39 +0100
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Subject: [CR] =?iso-8859-1?q?=B4Ebay_Outing_=28Dave_Lloyd=29_NOW_C?= =?iso-8859-1?q?hesini_NOW_Chesini_Innovation_FS?=

Angel, I have an later (ca 1995) Chesini K2 frame which uses a sinmiliar and unique seattube top tube lug. Not really sloping and not as high as the Innovation but the same style. It one of my regular riders and I like the bike a lot. I have seen a couple of really nice Innovations, all outfitted with C-Record gruppos which were pantoed an color matched. The brake covers and the rear derailleurs were painted and engraved. Really funky. I have one of this derailleurs and it is a piece I dare to use for fear of ruining it. I will post pictures soon.

I also can offer to the list two NOS Innovation frames, 59cm C to C. Price will be 500,00 $ + actual each. I can send pictures (which I still have to make) to whoever is interested. Colours are white with contrasting violet an yellow and blue. As far as memory serves....

Happy holidays

Michael Schmid Oberammergau Germany Tel.: +49 8821 798790 Fax.:+49 8821 798791 mail: schmid@zunterer.com http://www.zunterer.com

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Im Auftrag von Angel Garcia Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007 12:13 An: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS Betreff: Fwd: [CR] Ebay Outing (Dave Lloyd) NOW Chesini

It's interesting that while Lloyd was developing his Concept ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DAVE-LLOYD-CONCEPT-90-20-5in-ctc-22-5in-ctt-1991_W 0QQitemZ370006991296QQihZ024QQcategoryZ22679QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem) in the same time period Chesini developed the Innovation. The Innovation is also a sloping design, however, it is a lugged steel frame with very interesting seat tube/top tube junction lugwork . I have used the frame as the platform for a modern build ( http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2007/11/chesini-innovation-pro ject-finished.html).

I need to go and get the name of the Chesini builder of this frame; there was one guy that apparently was thinking outside the box all the time in terms of new designs. There are some interesting, but few, of these unique frames floating around.

I hope I haven't gone too astray in mentioning this but I think the frame itself was built be a KOF kinda guy.

Angel Garcia Verona, Italy

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   And the Dave Lloyd whilst later than the CR cutoff date is truly lovely steel frame. Hilary Stone, Bristol, England