----- Original Message ----- From: "henox" <henox@icycle.net> To: "randy dugan" <rsdugan@yahoo.com>; "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [CR]cinelli weirdness
Something about this thread (below) grabbed me, although I had ignored the original post: not in the market now. My own Cinelli (SC) is 15 years older, and I haven't looked much at the mid 80s versions - just too recent for me. The pictures do show some real differences between the two vintages. I love the curve of the newer fork. The lugs on this one are very short, w/o windows. The seat cluster is subtly different. So, if i were Rip van Winkle, and slept through a decade or two, I'd have been confused by this one. In fact, in bike terms, I did sleep through that period.
But given the provenance, it makes sense as a Cinelli that got repainted by someone who may not have done the best job priming (rust coming through at shifters), but who laid down a thin coat very crisply. And then got personalized with the badges. Heck, I once varnished a little Kahlua figure to the top tube of a Raleigh International, because I liked that translucent brown so much.
Sooo, now the question: Is seller asking a premium at for the known provenance, or are repainted late vintage Cinellis is decent shape worth >$2k now? Maybe there are people who would pay a large surcharge to have the documentation, and maybe there are are some who are Svihus fans. That's cool. But I think I've learned enough about Svihus to satisfy myself, and thanks for that.
I do have one bike that I can trace back to the original purchaser in 1965 or so, but I keep forgetting his name, so I guess I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum from the estimable Brett Horton. But, look at what Brett has accomplished!
harvey sachs mcLean va
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>> 290192703724 (ebay #)
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>>>> wild claims by the owner and a real platypus of a bike. is this
even a
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>> cinelli? anyone know mr. svihus?
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>> Yes, I'm sure it is a Cinelli.
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>> Most Northern California bike racers in Europe went to Cinelli because
>> they
>> were introduced to them via Cupertino Bike Shop (including me) and
because
>> Signora Cinelli spoke perfect english and was very accomodating.
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>> Yes, Bruce Svihus was a Nor Cal bike racer (Belmont Bicycle Club) when I
>> knew him and he went to Europe in the early '60's as some kind of U.S.
>> Army
>> assignment. I don't know the real story on his racing in Europe.
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>> For the price asked you could surely have the bike appraised by a
pro bike
>> shop in Colorado or wherever the bike lives.