Re: Re- [CR]Building my firstset of *tubular* track wheels

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

From: "Andrew R Stewart" <onetenth@earthlink.net>
To: "James Swan" <jswan@optonline.net>
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Subject: Re: Re- [CR]Building my firstset of *tubular* track wheels
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:16:07 -0500
cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

James- Wouldn't be the last time my memory is off.

Can you fill me in?

Andy Stewart Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: James Swan To: Andrew R Stewart Cc: Classic Rendezvous Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Re- [CR]Building my firstset of *tubular* track wheels

Andy,

I think that you are confusing Record Du Monde with Medal De Oro.

Jamie Swan

Northport, N.Y.

Centerport Cycles Inc.

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On Dec 29, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Andrew R Stewart wrote:

"List, I have a pair of '72 Campy High Flange "Paramount" track hubs that I would like to lace to tubular rims. This will be my first venture into the world of tubulars. (What took me so long???) This wheelset will likely be put t o use next season here at the Kissena Velodrome, a large outdoor asphalt tr ack. I own a NOS pair of Super Champion "Record Du Monde" rims, of which I know absolutely nothing. When were these rims available? Do they have a positive or negative reputa tion? Would this be an appropriate rim for use on an asphalt track? Or are they "road only"? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Matthew Bowne Brooklyn, New York"

Matthew- The Record de Monde rims are amongst the lightest that SC made. IIRC around 260 or 270 grams, which is REAL light. For track use they could be great. How heavy are you as a rider (not only weight dependent)? They are pretty soft and sensitive to rim blips (luckily sew ups tend to protect the rim better then wired ons/clinchers). As such they will bulge a bit at each spoke producing 36 (or whatever) grab points for the pads to grab on to (hence the track use). I suggest thin gauge spokes with less tension then currently in vogue. I also seem to remember that the rim is 20ish mm wide with a shallow depression for the tire to settle onto. So the thin 20/22 mm tires that are common today might not fit or straighten up as well as 23/24mm tires. I used a couple of pairs in the late 70's, also Mavic Oros and later on GEL 280s, then GL 330s and now the Reflexes now on my Sunday bike. The rims were always replaced due to my need for best braking action. I don't tolerate brake pulsing for long. Of course the light weight stuff suffers more of this.

That all said, to accelerate off the high banking with light sewups is an experience to live for. I've only done it on a road bike with GL330's and nice (not great) sew ups a couple of times (Northbrook, IL). Both times I wished for more fitness to give the opportunity full justice. Watch your P's and Q's and have a blast.

Andy Stewart
      Raleigh, NC
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