RE: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert

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From: "Scott Minneman" <minneman@onomy.com>
To: "'Norm and Val Lafleur'" <nvlafleur@verizon.net>, <sgshaw@aol.com>, <beandk@rcn.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 01:00:37 -0800
In-Reply-To: <008a01c83946$2ab220f0$2f01a8c0@LAFLEUR>
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I'm not seeing anything suspicious, Norm...none of the BB stampings on yours and the one in the auction are even similar, unless you ground off some numbers before the repaint.

What am I missing? Why do you think the auction is suspect?

Scott Minneman San Francisco, CA - USA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Norm and Val Lafleur Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:58 PM To: sgshaw@aol.com; beandk@rcn.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert

Beware of this suspicious auction. MC56 S/N 787 is sitting in my collection right now and it is not for sale. The bike as listed is as it was when I bought it 2 years ago. Pictures of it as it exists today may be seen here.

http://flickr.com/photos/10214729@N04/sets/72157600882018678/detail/

Norm Lafleur
Ashfield, Ma.


----- Original Message -----
From: sgshaw@aol.com
To: beandk@rcn.com
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Masi



> Well Bob Hovey and Brian will probably know for sure, but it looks to me
> as if the stamp on the right side of the M cutout is +GF which is the mark
> of the bottom bracket maker Georg Fischer. The numbers to the left of the
> M cut out appear to be 617 (read upside down). So this could be CaliMasi
> #617. If so it's a 74 or 75 and not a 1973 as claimed. Note also that it
> does not have a twin plate fork crown, which would have pegged it as a 73.
> Instead it's a non-slotted Fischer fork crown which indicates 74 75 or 76.
> Additionally, the lugs are pressed and not investment cast. All this
> seems to indicate an early 75 GC to me.
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> Steve Shaw
> Millbury, MA
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> From: David Bean <beandk@rcn.com>
> To: CR List (E-mail) <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:12 pm
> Subject: [CR]Ebay Masi
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> Item 170175732352
> Can someone interpret the stamping on the BB of this bike?
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> David Bean
> Arlington, MA
> beandk at are-see-enn dot com
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