[CR]Paris Roubaix Question

(Example: Framebuilders:Doug Fattic)

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "Toni Theilmeier" <toni.theilmeier@t-online.de>
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:37:45 +0100
Subject: [CR]Paris Roubaix Question

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, I hope you don´t mind if I tap the collective CR list mind one more time.

Yesterday I was sent a really strange frame. It is a Goldia, ca. 1950 I

should say, very nicely made indeed, and it has toothed dropouts for Cambio Corsa or Paris-Roubaix. The number of teeth suggests the latter.

The funny thing is that it also has a cable guide brazed onto the bottom bracket shell, a cable ring (not a stop) on the r/h chainstay and a stop on the downtube for a front derailleur. I´d have loved it to have a rear derailleur hanger on the Paris-Roubaix dropout, but no such

luck.

I can think of three possibilities, and would invite opinions.

One, the framebuilder goofed. Least likely.

Two, the original owner had the frame built at a time when the P/R gear

was still available, and used for rough stuff, possibly during the winter, and Gran Sport on a bolt-on hanger during the summer. Nice thought, but far fetched. Anyway, were braze on b/b cable guides around

in the early fifties?

Three, the frame was renovated later in its life, but then it would have had the full works (chromed half-stays, beautiful lining, great paintwork) besides the brazed on additional bits, and when going to those lengths, why not swap the P/R dropouts for long usual ones? Perhaps the P/R dropouts were that long that other dropouts would not fit the stays? The mind boggles.

Thanks for any input. Please do not send any pictures; I still use analogue POTS internet - else my Apple II would not be able to use it.

Regards, Toni Theilmeier, Belm, Germany.