I don't ride a classic bike but when you guys who do buy one do you go for the traditional "too big" sizing ie a maximum of two inches of seat pillar showing or the modern, arguably, "two small" size? On a similar topic I was just watching the Manchester World Cup track races on Eurosport and every single rider had an upward sloping stem. Quite a change from the days of the Cinelli No.3 Saachi. Ray Green, Harrow, Middlesex