Hello All,
Please I search Emerson decals and stem badge (headbadge) Airone for acquire
or to make exchanges
Thanks
Giorgio Panciroli
Italia
info@vintagetransfers.it
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> 1. Re: Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!) (Sadiq Gill)
> 2. WTB/WTT: 36h - 700c Rim Pair (Nathan Cozzolino)
> 3. BAY AREA Machinist/framebuilder needed (Norma Gonzalez)
> 4. Re: Re: [CR] BAY AREA Machinist/framebuilder needed
> 5. Vintage vs modern frame sizes/geometry (Roman Stankus)
> 6. Re: Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!) (Steven Willis)
> 7. Re: Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!) (Michael Schmidt)
> 8. WTB: Black Quill Stem 120mm (Sadiq Gill)
> 9. WTB: NOS Black Turbo Saddle (John Barron)
> 10. Re: Vintage vs modern frame sizes/geometry (Fred Rafael Rednor)
> 11. TA water bottle cage downtube mounting clips.(NIB) on ebay
> 12. photos: early 1960s Pogliaghi Pista #6844 (sasha eysymontt)
> 13. Interesting French seatpost on eBay 26.4
> 14. Re: Ebay Raleigh International (Al Van Varick)
> 15. FS: Campag narrow rail seatpin parts (Toni Theilmeier)
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> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 23:49:41 -0500
> From: "Sadiq Gill" <sadiqgill@gmail.com>
> To: "Dan Kehew" <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
> Cc: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!)
> Message-ID: <c76dc510702022049g6721abd5r9d7ab7e5811a7dd1@mail.gmail.com>
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> I have seen some of the 'AA-Hero's' auctions before. 'Rare' department
> store bikes painted and badged "Colago" the famous I-talian frame maker.
> Some are exceedingly co(s)mic.
>
> On 2/2/07, Dan Kehew <dan.kehew@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> All I'm gonna say is what I said to Dale. The key words in the
>> description are "....obvious crash issues...."
>>
>> <
>> http://ebay.com/
>> >
>>
>> -- Dan Kehew, Davis CA USA
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sadiq Gill
> Richmond, VA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:01:54 +0000
> From: "Nathan Cozzolino" <cozzolino77@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB/WTT: 36h - 700c Rim Pair
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> I'm looking for a polished pair of clincher rims. 36h, 700c. Any brand rim
> would be acceptable - Fiamme, Super Champion, Mavic, Rigida etc...
>
> In terms of trade, I have a used pair of gold anodized Super Champion
> (700c,
> 36h) in good condition.
>
> Nathan Cozzolino
> SF,CA
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 22:31:28 -0800
> From: "Norma Gonzalez" <joeysarah@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR] BAY AREA Machinist/framebuilder needed
> Message-ID: <001801c7475c$f06961f0$6501a8c0@anonymous>
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> Dear Mark,
>
> You wrote:
>
> Hi All.
>
> I have a 1" threaded fork and I need to get a 'key slot' milled into the
> steer tube to accomodate a keyed headset washer. Can anyone suggest a
> person who could do this in the SF Bay Area? I would go to Bernie
> Mikkelsen for this usually but with his recent stroke I'm not sure if he
> is doing bike work - plus his machine is full.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> Mark Buswell
> San Francisco, CA
> United States
>
> I believe the advice you have been given is sound. However, if you
> decide now or in the future you need a machinist/UBERframe builder call
> Peter Johnson (1 650 365 1536).
>
> Chris Gonzalez
> Carmel, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:28:09 -0600 (CST)
> From: <smwillis@verizon.net>
> To: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: Re: [CR] BAY AREA Machinist/framebuilder needed
> Message-ID:
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> For years I just took my time and used a small flat hand file on it's side
> and it work just fine.
>>From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>
>>Date: 2007/02/02 Fri PM 09:59:37 CST
>>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: Re: [CR] BAY AREA Machinist/framebuilder needed
>
>>One suggestion would be to file the key out of the washer. If you use 2
>>wrenches like you're supposed to, you don't need it. In any case, the
>>little bit of backlash a keyed washer still allows, can make the
>>difference
>>between just right and too tight with just one wrench, so you still have
>>to
>>play around with it until you get it right.
>>
>>At 06:15 PM 02/02/2007 -0600, mark@sisuhome.com wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi All.
>>>
>>>I have a 1" threaded fork and I need to get a 'key slot' milled into the
>>>st
>>>eer tube to accomodate a keyed headset washer. Can anyone suggest a
>>>person
>>>who could do this in
>>>the SF Bay Area? I would go to Bernie Mikkelsen for this usually but with
>>>h
>>>is recent stroke I'm not sure if he is doing bike work - plus his machine
>>>i
>>>s full.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>Mark Buswell
>>>San Francisco, CA
>>>United States
>>
>>
>>
>>John Betmanis
>>Woodstock, Ontario
>>Canada
>>_______________________________________________
>
>
> Stevn Willis
> The Bike Stand
> 1778 East 2nd Street
> Scotch Plains NJ 07076
> thebikestand.com
> 908-322-330
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:38:54 -0500
> From: "Roman Stankus" <rstankus@mindspring.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Vintage vs modern frame sizes/geometry
> Message-ID: <E1HDL6R-0006QN-Fh@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> Here's part of a Q&A from current cyclingnews.com regarding vintage bike
> frame sizes compared to modern frame sizes. The answer is by Steve Hogg -
> self proclaimed bike fit expert. I'm not looking to stir up a controversy
> about older vs newer is better etc. - just wondering about the old time
> religion of bike fit/riding style and frame geometry. I was wondering if
> the
> guys that were riding seriously back then and could compare old vs new had
> any thoughts on this subject? I'm not sure Steve Hogg has his facts
> straight on old racing geometry (which I've always thought was no steeper
> and/or slacker in the mid 70's than modern frame geometry). His comment
> about having fewer gears leading to the need to spin more seemed bogus.
> Did
> riders ride in more forward possitions than today?
>
> "Modern frame sizes too small?
>
> Do today's bicycle manufacturers, in an effort to reduce weight, make
> bicycle frames too small for the rider that they are supposed to
> be catering for.
>
> Looking at older pictures of racers like Eddy, Coppi, Van Looy, it seems
> that these racers rode frames that may have been larger than today's
> frames. If you look at the saddle to bar drop, it seems that they do not
> have the large differences of today's racers. Van Looy made the comment in
> an interview in a magazine, stating that if you cannot get into the drops
> to
> get aero, what is the point.
>
> Steve Hogg replies:
>
> You are right. 30+ years ago, larger frames for a given rider than they
> would ride today were common. Riders had less gears to play with too, so
> pedaling fast for extended periods was more valued than it is now. This
> meant that seat tube angles were often (not always) steeper on many frames
> of the 70's than they are now. Leather seats of the era had much shorter
> seat rails than modern seats which steepened the effective seat tube angle
> by a degree typically. The net effect of all of this was that riders rode
> further forward generally.
>
> As a rider moves forward, there is a weight transfer onto the upper body
> which has to be supported by the arms and upper body. This mitigates
> against
> reaching low because the back tends to arch and tense to assist in
> stabilising the rider. As an example, forward positioned triathletes with
> low positions would struggle to cope if their aero bars were removed. So
> the
> answer in the 70's and prior was to have larger frames and hence higher
> bars
> relative to seat position. If you have a look at photos of Van Looy on the
> drops he was VERY hunched over as tends to happen when the seat is too far
> forward and real effort is being applied. Coppi wasn't as cramped as Van
> Looy and Merckx less cramped again but still, they had higher bars than is
> common today.
>
> Another thing that may have played a part is that races were often longer
> than they are now (Grand Tours were four weeks not three), road surfaces
> often weren't as good resulting in comfort being a higher priority than
> aerodynamics. Cycling then was basically a working class European sport
> where there wasn't a large amount of money to throw at biomechanical or
> aerodynamic studies and so on. Riders did the best they could with what
> they
> had."
>
> Roman "dreamin' of warmer weather" Stankus
> Atlanta, Georgia USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:34:36 -0500
> From: "Steven Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net>
> To: "Sadiq Gill" <sadiqgill@gmail.com>,
> "Dan Kehew" <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
> Cc: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!)
> Message-ID: <004001c747a0$6e743f00$2c01a8c0@bike1>
> References: <8c14bd140702021930h2577cd1bved388bb3aad8b19c@mail.gmail.com>
> <c76dc510702022049g6721abd5r9d7ab7e5811a7dd1@mail.gmail.com>
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> So if I bought it and fixed it would it still be a Masi?
> Steven Willis
> The Bike Stand
> 1778 East Second Street
> Scotch Plains NJ 07076
> 908-322-3330
> http://www.thebikestand.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sadiq Gill" <sadiqgill@gmail.com>
> To: "Dan Kehew" <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
> Cc: "classic rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!)
>
>
>>I have seen some of the 'AA-Hero's' auctions before. 'Rare' department
>> store bikes painted and badged "Colago" the famous I-talian frame maker.
>> Some are exceedingly co(s)mic.
>>
>> On 2/2/07, Dan Kehew <dan.kehew@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All I'm gonna say is what I said to Dale. The key words in the
>>> description are "....obvious crash issues...."
>>>
>>> <
>>> http://ebay.com/
>>> >
>>>
>>> -- Dan Kehew, Davis CA USA
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sadiq Gill
>> Richmond, VA
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:47:50 -0500
> From: Michael Schmidt <mdschmidt@patmedia.net>
> To: Steven Willis <smwillis@verizon.net>,
> Sadiq Gill <sadiqgill@gmail.com>, Dan Kehew <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
> Cc: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!)
> Message-ID: <C1EA0AC6.2AE9%mdschmidt@patmedia.net>
> In-Reply-To: <004001c747a0$6e743f00$2c01a8c0@bike1>
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> I think we've discussed this on the list before but ATMO, if you replace
> the
> tubes with similar or same material, the way the frame was originally made
> in San Marcos, I would say its still a Masi because it still has most of
> its
> original components.
>
> Mike Schmidt
> Stirling, NJ
> USA
>
>
>
> On 2/3/07 9:34 AM, "Steven Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> So if I bought it and fixed it would it still be a Masi?
>> Steven Willis
>> The Bike Stand
>> 1778 East Second Street
>> Scotch Plains NJ 07076
>> 908-322-3330
>> http://www.thebikestand.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sadiq Gill" <sadiqgill@gmail.com>
>> To: "Dan Kehew" <dan.kehew@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "classic rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Listmeister says it's KOF (K O Funk!)
>>
>>
>>> I have seen some of the 'AA-Hero's' auctions before. 'Rare' department
>>> store bikes painted and badged "Colago" the famous I-talian frame maker.
>>> Some are exceedingly co(s)mic.
>>>
>>> On 2/2/07, Dan Kehew <dan.kehew@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All I'm gonna say is what I said to Dale. The key words in the
>>>> description are "....obvious crash issues...."
>>>>
>>>> <
>>>> http://ebay.com/
>>>> DME:B:SS:US:1
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Dan Kehew, Davis CA USA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:20:45 -0500
> From: "Sadiq Gill" <sadiqgill@gmail.com>
> To: "classic rendezvous" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,
> bob_list <Internet-bob@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]WTB: Black Quill Stem 120mm
> Message-ID: <c76dc510702030720k17065aa0o4b19cff5dacd0b44@mail.gmail.com>
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> Dear List: Look for a black 120 mm stem in either 25.4 or 26.0 could be
> cinelli, salsa etc....contact me OL
>
> Need not be NOS or perfect........thx
> --
> Sadiq Gill
> Richmond, VA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:27:19 -0600
> From: "John Barron" <jb@velostuf.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]WTB: NOS Black Turbo Saddle
> Message-ID: <005601c747a7$cbe48490$6701a8c0@velostuf>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
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> I'd like to buy a NOS black, or dark blue (if they made them) Selle Italia
> Turbo saddle for my current bike project.
>
>
>
> I'll pay $75 shipped, or more- just let me know. I'd consider a Concor
> too
>
>
>
> John Barron
>
> Minneapolis
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:11:31 -0800 (PST)
> From: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Vintage vs modern frame sizes/geometry
> Message-ID: <91049.70782.qm@web30601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> In-Reply-To: <E1HDL6R-0006QN-Fh@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> Roman,
> I also read that little article and I think Hogg ignored
> some really important factors. With modern shifters and brake
> systems, it's much easier to ride with your hands on top of the
> brake levers. I believe that at the moment frames are designed
> to optimize that riding style. It seems to me that racers only
> ride in the drops during the most extreme sprinting situations
> or in criteriums.
> Older racing bikes were designed so that you rode in the
> drops for much longer periods of time.
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- Roman Stankus <rstankus@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's part of a Q&A from current cyclingnews.com regarding
>> vintage bike
>> frame sizes compared to modern frame sizes. The answer is by
>> Steve Hogg -
>> self proclaimed bike fit expert. I'm not looking to stir up a
>> controversy
>> about older vs newer is better etc. - just wondering about
>> the old time
>> religion of bike fit/riding style and frame geometry. I was
>> wondering if the
>> guys that were riding seriously back then and could compare
>> old vs new had
>> any thoughts on this subject? I'm not sure Steve Hogg has
>> his facts
>> straight on old racing geometry (which I've always thought
>> was no steeper
>> and/or slacker in the mid 70's than modern frame geometry).
>> His comment
>> about having fewer gears leading to the need to spin more
>> seemed bogus. Did
>> riders ride in more forward possitions than today?
>>
>> "Modern frame sizes too small?
>>
>> Do today's bicycle manufacturers, in an effort to reduce
>> weight, make
>> bicycle frames too small for the rider that they
>> are supposed to
>> be catering for.
>>
>> Looking at older pictures of racers like Eddy, Coppi, Van
>> Looy, it seems
>> that these racers rode frames that may have been larger than
>> today's
>> frames. If you look at the saddle to bar drop, it seems that
>> they do not
>> have the large differences of today's racers. Van Looy made
>> the comment in
>> an interview in a magazine, stating that if you cannot get
>> into the drops to
>> get aero, what is the point.
>>
>> Steve Hogg replies:
>>
>> You are right. 30+ years ago, larger frames for a given rider
>> than they
>> would ride today were common. Riders had less gears to play
>> with too, so
>> pedaling fast for extended periods was more valued than it is
>> now. This
>> meant that seat tube angles were often (not always) steeper
>> on many frames
>> of the 70's than they are now. Leather seats of the era had
>> much shorter
>> seat rails than modern seats which steepened the effective
>> seat tube angle
>> by a degree typically. The net effect of all of this was that
>> riders rode
>> further forward generally.
>>
>> As a rider moves forward, there is a weight transfer onto the
>> upper body
>> which has to be supported by the arms and upper body. This
>> mitigates against
>> reaching low because the back tends to arch and tense to
>> assist in
>> stabilising the rider. As an example, forward positioned
>> triathletes with
>> low positions would struggle to cope if their aero bars were
>> removed. So the
>> answer in the 70's and prior was to have larger frames and
>> hence higher bars
>> relative to seat position. If you have a look at photos of
>> Van Looy on the
>> drops he was VERY hunched over as tends to happen when the
>> seat is too far
>> forward and real effort is being applied. Coppi wasn't as
>> cramped as Van
>> Looy and Merckx less cramped again but still, they had higher
>> bars than is
>> common today.
>>
>> Another thing that may have played a part is that races were
>> often longer
>> than they are now (Grand Tours were four weeks not three),
>> road surfaces
>> often weren't as good resulting in comfort being a higher
>> priority than
>> aerodynamics. Cycling then was basically a working class
>> European sport
>> where there wasn't a large amount of money to throw at
>> biomechanical or
>> aerodynamic studies and so on. Riders did the best they could
>> with what they
>> had."
>>
>> Roman "dreamin' of warmer weather" Stankus
>> Atlanta, Georgia USA
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:17:54 EST
> From: LouDeeter@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]TA water bottle cage downtube mounting clips.(NIB) on ebay
> Message-ID: <cf6.8b98b49.32f60fb2@aol.com>
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> eBay: TA water bottle cage downtube mounting clips.(NIB) (item
> 280076126720
> end time Feb-04-07 13:55:01 PST)
>
>
> http://ebay.com/
> 280076126720QQihZ018QQcategoryZ42319QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> People are always looking for these clamps to mount water bottle cages on
> bikes without braze-on mounts. Not mine. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:55:02 -0500
> From: "sasha eysymontt" <sashae@gmail.com>
> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org ((E-mail))"
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]photos: early 1960s Pogliaghi Pista #6844
> Message-ID: <1e4701b80702030855x35d4e889kf7fc1f85dac732ba@mail.gmail.com>
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> I've recently acquired what I believe to be an early-to-mid 1960s
> Pogliaghi
> Italcorse Pista serial #6844 built from Reynolds 531 tubing. Nice
> mid-blue
> paint, well-fined lugs, antiquing/fade paint on the head tube and seat
> tube,
> chromed twin-plate fork crown. Dropouts are not marked. This frame was
> ordered new in the early 1960s by a gentleman in Illinois, who raced it at
> Northbrook velodrome then stored it for the last 30-odd years. Came with
> Magistroni headset, Record bottom bracket, and the remainder of the build
> (which is currently being cleaned up.) Seat tube shows a half-circle
> stamping that says R A P in the middle, and the down tube is stamped
> REYNOLDS TUBING in an oval. Head tube is stamped POGLIAGHI ITALCORSE.
> Two
> sets of Olympic ring decals, each with the German and Belgian flags
> surround
> the POGLIAGHI ITALCORSE sticker on the downtube and seattube.
>
> A question on paint -- I'm a bit nervous to continue cleaning it, as I
> don't
> want to remove something that isn't supposed to be removed (at this point
> I've used a mild cleaner and water with paper towels to do a general
> cleaning.) There's what appears to be blue or black clearcoat lacquer on
> the seat tube in between the Olympic ring decals that peels easily when
> touched, revealing the bright blue paint underneath. I'm not sure if
> that's
> supposed to come off (ie, it's dirt) or if it's removing paint. Any
> thoughts.
>
> Also, does anyone have pictures of what the head tube and seat tube
> globe-with-olive-branches decals would look like for a bike from this
> vintage?
>
> http://boxwood.subtle.org/
>
> I'm a bit unsure what to do with the bike at this point, as this is the
> oldest frame I've owned. It's in quite clean condition -- chips with
> surface rust, mostly, but no dents and no real rot. I don't want to make
> it worse :)
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -s
> --
> ---
> ,+'^'+ sasha eysymontt
> sashae at gmail dot com - http://subtle.org/
> `+,.,+` new york city.
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 13:33:09 EST
> From: Stronglight49@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] Interesting French seatpost on eBay 26.4
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> Not my auction, but this caught my eye. Ebay item # 110086585251
>
> Looks like a Simplex, but badged Speidel (which I believed eventually
> was
> the re-organized conglomerate which rose from the ruins of many earlier
> French component companies which did not survive the 80s intact). This
> post has
> long square flutes and appears much longer than earlier posts.
> I wouldn't use it personally, since the fluting extends so far down it
> would expose my seat tube to the elements and to rust. But it might be
> useful
> if anyone has a "too small" French frameset and needs a longer post...
> It's
> still French made and of one of the more common French diameters.
>
> Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, NM, USA
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:36:48 -0700
> From: "Al Van Varick" <alvan519@cox.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Raleigh International
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> There has been the usual speculation and opinion on the CR list in this
> case
> about the presumed separating seat stay cap on the Raleigh International
> that I have listed on eBay. What I find interesting is that not one person
> has asked for additional close-up photographs. I guess what that means is
> that there are "lots of people talking but few of them know".
>
>
> Al Van Varick
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:50:22 +0100
> From: Toni Theilmeier <toni.theilmeier@t-online.de>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]FS: Campag narrow rail seatpin parts
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>
> It´s good to have friends, of course, but sometimes things can get a
>
> little too good.
>
> People knew that I was in the market for those four little parts that
> turn a standard Campag two bolt seatpin into the magical mystery item
> that takes the Brooks Campag Competition narrow rail saddle made
> between, I think, 1959 and 1962.
>
> When these parts turned up on Ebay recently, those friendly people also
>
> remembered that I do not take part in electric auctions, so one sent a
>
> mail saying if I didn´t want the items, and someone else got another
>
> set for me. It seems that one auction covered two sets, at least, or so
>
> I gather. It dawned on me only later that in this I had lost my Ebay
> virginity, but takava selavee, as they say in Russia.
>
> What I have now is one saddle and two sets of fittings, so I´d like to
>
> plough one set back into the system. Don´t think I´m doing this for
>
> altruistic motives alone; I paid fifty US-Dollars for one set, plus
> postage, so if anyone is willing to pay me back my fifty Dollars,
> inclusive of shipping anywhere in the world, I´d be happy to let those
>
> things go again. Perhaps there will be an offer to trade the parts?
>
> Contrary to what was said in the Ebay description I would not say that
>
> the fittings are NOS. They certainly do not show any signs of abuse,
> but I´d rather be more conservative and describe them as having been
>
> taken off a new or very, very slightly used seatpin.
>
> Also contrary to what was said in the same description, I´m not sure
> if
> there ever was a narrow rail Idéale saddle, and should there have been
>
> one, if the fittings are ok for it. There was another auction recently
>
> which said that the fittings do not go on a standard two bolt Campag
> seatpin, but mine do. I have tried one of my sets and it now graces my
>
> ca. 1962 Cinelli SC.
>
> Regards,
> Toni Theilmeier, Belm, Germany.
>
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