FW: [BOB] [CR]Small Masi Geometry?

> Folks,
> I cross-posted this because I recently unsubscribed to
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, and, I thought maybe you all would be
> interested in a discussion of frame geos of a make that is rarely
> discussed here on internet-bob@bikelist.org. Ken Freeman's queries
> below might make for interesting conjecture about the differences in
> handling of the specs he asks about, compared to what small-sized
> ibobs are used to. I rarely cross-post, and I hadn't planned on
> making a habit of it, but all my Masi experience between 1983 and 1990
> went into the Rivendell frames I made between
> 1997 and 2002.
>
> Joe Starck
> Madison, WI USA
>
> --- Joe Starck <josephbstarck@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Archive-URL:
> >
> http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10702.0003. eml
> > From: "Ken Freeman" <freesound(AT)comcast.net>
> > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:31:43 -0500
> > Subject: [CR]Small Masi Geometry?
> >
> > Hi, back to Masis!!
> >
> > I have a 1980 GC, which seems to have a very short frame. It's an
> > M53 and measures 53 cm from BB center to the to of the
> seat
> > tube lug. Seat tube is
> > 51 cm c-c and the TT is about 51.5 cm c-c, very short, and the
> > wheelbase is
> > 95 cm.
> >
> > On ebay there is an M52 GC frame (claimed S/N
> 5002)
> > that is newer than mine,
> > auction 160080283389. Frame looks nice but is damaged by drilling,
> > a sign of impaired owner judgement IMO (it's up to
> $102.50
> > as
> > I type with reserve
> > not met, for what it's worth?). BUT, the seat
> tube
> > length is claimed as 52
> > cm c-c and the top tube length is 54 cm c-c.
> > There's
> > a discrepancey between
> > the M52 designator and the 52 cm c-c measurement,
> > but
> > the TT is what's
> > interesting.
> >
> > I also recall a past Italian 3V on Ebay, with
> > claimed
> > seat tube length of 52
> > cm c-c and TT of 55 cm c-c.
> >
> > My question is, is the geometry of the current
> Ebay
> > frame typical of small
> > Gran Criteriums? Does anyone have a good set of
> > numbers for a non-custom
> > M52 or M53 Gran Criterium? I haven't found
> anything
> > comprehensive posted on
> > the List or anywhere, but that could just be my
> low
> > Google skills.
> >
> > Inquiring Masiphiles (at least this one) want to
> > know!
> >
> > Ken Freeman
> > Ann Arbor, MI USA
> >
> > Ken,
> > I could check my old specs when I was making Masi
> > GCs;
> > I'll get back to the list on it.
> > Joe Starck
> > Madison, WI USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
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