Campy oversize cups are as old as the hills along the Po valley. We had them
over 30 years ago for loose threaded BB sizing .
They came in handy and once or twice a year we would use one, if that.
Remember the dimensioning problem with the cranks and spindle? The plus 1,
plus 1.5 so the crank and frames would be compatible?
Occasionally the Camp-halo has a separation.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA
> Have any of you ever seen the slightly oversized bottom bracket cups?
> These were sold to help a frame that had loose threads.
> I have an Italian adjustable cup thats marked 36.5 X 24 f.,,, honest!
> If this has been discussed before whip me w/ frayed campag gear cables.
>
> Peter Weigle
> Lyme Ct.
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>> 1. Re: Race-Durability in 1970's - 1983 ? (John Thompson)
>> 2. WTB: Rear Record (Track) Hub Dust Caps (Kyle Robson)
>> 3. Re:Portacatena (MM(btinternet))
>> 4. Re:Leather Helmets (MM(btinternet))
>> 5. Re: Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over ...
>> (Kurt Sperry)
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:05:06 -0600
>> From: John Thompson <john@os2.dhs.org>
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Race-Durability in 1970's - 1983 ?
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>> Donald Gillies wrote:
>>> (which fits with the CR timeline).
>>>
>>> I was surprised by an article about Darrel McCulloch and his work for
>>> the Australian national cycling team. In particular, he stated, "The
>>> life expectancy for these bikes is 12 months at the maximum" (article
>>> written June 2006).
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.llewellynbikes.com/
>>>
>>> For any CR members who were sponsored racers in the 1970's and early
>>> 1980's, what do you think was the life expectancy of your bike ?? Was
>>> it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years?
>>>
>>> What was a typical failure mode - A crash? A tube separating or
>>> starting to tear? A braze-on that broke-off ?? Or is it just that the
>>> bike looks ragged and - the factory or the sponsor is not set up to do
>>> repaints ??
>>
>> For a professional team, it's because the cost of a new frame every
>> season is trivial compared to the risk of a failure on an old frame.
>>
>> --
>> John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
>> Appleton WI USA
>> ------------------------------
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:06:45 -0600
>> From: "Kyle Robson" <kyledr@gmail.com>
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: [CR]WTB: Rear Record (Track) Hub Dust Caps
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got a low flange Campagnolo Record track hub without dust caps,
>> and I'd like to get some on there. If you have some which would be
>> compatible, I'm interested. I'm not an expert on this hub, but it is
>> low flange, probably predates c-record, is engraved with the
>> Campagnolo logo and below that the word Record. I'd assume dust caps
>> from other hubs would also work, but I wouldn't know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kyle
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:32:32 -0000
>> From: "MM(btinternet)" <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
>> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Subject: [CR]Re:Portacatena
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>> Hi all
>> I know that there has been a lot of traffic on this subject, but I
>> thought that I would offer my two pennorth (2 Nickells) worth on the
>> subject. We all know the purpose of the device, and its conception was
>> good BUT - in Pro road racing (Kneteman, Raas, Kuiper etc) one needed
>> the confidence that when it comes to the sprint, you could push the gear
>> lever forward and have confidence that you were on the 13 sprocket and
>> could GO. Not the case with the Portacatena. Banging the lever forward
>> for the sprint often shipped the chain onto the Portacatena carrier,
>> which was not a lot of use in a sprint.
>> Hence the device was quicly shunned by the TI Raleigh Team.
>> Mike Mullett
>> Reading UK
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:48:37 -0000
>> From: "MM(btinternet)" <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
>> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Subject: [CR]Re:Leather Helmets
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>> Hi All and Ray Green, (missed you at the Pedal Club lunch today)
>> A follow up on Rays story re Hennie Kuiper winning the worlds at Yvoir in
>> Belgium 1975 in a "hairnet" crash hat, only it wasn't his.
>> I was at this Worlds as mechanic to the GB team and Jan Kuiper, manager
>> of
>> the Dutch team came into the GB pits in a panic at the start as Hennie
>> had
>> forgotten his helmet, could we help ( Jan Kuiper had become a friend
>> after
>> managing the Dutch team in many Milk Races). I had my son with me who had
>> been competing in Belgium and offered him the loan of his crash hat,
>> offer
>> rapidly accepted.
>> As we know Hennie won the Pro title that year and I said to my son
>> "forget
>> the crash hat, we won't get near him at the ceremony".
>> We headed for the ferry to the UK, and wrote the helmot off.
>> Two weeks later a parcel arrive addressed to my son containing a thank
>> you
>> letter from Hennie, a Frisol jersey (his team at the time) an 50
>> guilders.
>> Hennie asked could he keep the helmet as he considered it lucky. Quite a
>> haul for a young 15 year old (now 46) and a measure of the
>> professionalism
>> of Hennie Kuiper
>> Mike Mullett
>> Reading UK
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:48:39 -0800
>> From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
>> To: "Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
>> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR]Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over ...
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>>
>> The Ebay link is now dead, but the photo hosting link still works.
>>
>> I think I can recall seeing 11 and 22 in a box on Campy arms. Warranty
>> replacements or something? The little star might just be to keep the
>> crank
>> spindle mystery "Z" stamps company.
>>
>> Kurt Sperry
>> Bellingham WA USA
>>
>>
>> On 2/13/07, Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.auctiva.com/
>>>
>>> http://ebay.com/
>>>
>>> A campagnolo crankset with the following date code :
>>>
>>> 172.5 PISTA [32] <fleur-de-lis>
>>>
>>> Is this a mythical frank-threaded PISTA crank where time ran backwards
>>> while they were making the date-mark, which changed from [33] to [32]
>>> halfway through the stamping process ?? Does this belong in the
>>> Smithsonian ??
>>>
>>
>>
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