From: "Feeken, Dirk" <dirk.feeken@sap.com>
To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [CR]Which vintage frames have steep angles?>
> A friend of mine is becoming more and more interested in vintage bikes
> and has already several on topic nice irons.
> On all his bikes he has set the saddle as far forward as possible and is
> still not really satisfied. He sais he needs a very steep seat tube and
> a short top tube. He also says that 70s Gios and Ciocc frames have such
> geometries while other brands like Merckx and De Rosa haven't. Indeed my
> 1978 Gios has a relatively short top tube, but is this true in general?
> Were there really specific brands whith short steep geometry? And which
> (european) brands should he look for?
Depending on how tall he is, the 70's Raleigh frames may suit him. The top tube seemed to stay the same length once you reach the 23 1/2" size(measured c-t) So the bigger the frame the shorter the relative top tube length becomes. Hope I explained that correctly. I can ride 231/2", 241/2", and 251/2" Raleighs. They all have the Brooks shoved all the way back. So really the difference is how much seat post shows and how "racy" the handle bar drop is. (using a normal sized Cinelli stem)
Pete Geurds
Douglassville, Pa