Hugh and List, I referred to this stem a death stem because it is the same or similiar design than the AVA death stems as I have seen them in various postings but not as original. My understanding of the death stem was that these stems designs featured the "holed" (open) forward part facing the rider. This particuliar stem has seen a lot of use obviously and did not snap and shows no significant signs of fatigue such as cracks. I will post pictures for reference on wooljersey soon.
Regards
Michael - not an deaths stem expert - Schmid Oberammergau Germany Tel.: +49 8821 798790 Fax.:+49 8821 798791 mail: schmid@zunterer.com http://www.zunterer.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Im Auftrag von Hughethornton@aol.com Gesendet: Montag, 19. März 2007 18:26 An: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Betreff: Re: [CR]Really old Moser Bike and Cinelli world champion stripes
In a message dated 18/03/2007 23:19:13 GMT Standard Time, schmidi@gaponline.de writes:
Hello List, Yesterday I got a really old an wheathered light blue lightweight from one of my LBS decalled "Cicli Moser Trento". It is a entry level bike and i would say it was made in the fifties or sixties. It has a PIVO "death-stem"
This is the first reference I have seen to a PIVO death stem. There has been much correspondence on this list about AVA death stems and one person did query whether PIVO stems were the same because of a superficially similar design, but I am not aware of any confirmation.
PIVO stems were used successfully in competition for many years, notably by Jacques Anquetil, and I have never had any qualms about using them on various Gitanes that I have owned. I currently have 2 PIVO stems showing no signs of fracture or impending failure. Does anyone know for sure whether there is any weakness in the PIVO design?
Hugh Thornton
Cheshire, England