Dale writes:
>> I would think that bike was firmly from the very late 1970s and more
>> likely the 1980s.
I don't think it can be that late, here are the clues: If it was a 70's or 80's Prestige with the wrong decals, it'd have a crest on the crown flats, and it'd have seatstay plugs. And tho Alberto did produce the Gran Crit until around 1979, these later GC's (and Prestiges too) were pretty consistent about having date stamps on the BB (about 1975 on, but not consistently at first). Since this one doesn't have one, it probably dates to '76 or earlier. Also, none of the late 70's Prestiges and Gran Crits have "+GF+" (Georg Fischer) on the BB... either they'd moved on to the investment cast BB or Alberto was filing the marks off, like we occasionally did over here on some of the US Masis.
Bob Hovey Columbus, GA
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> << The seller says this Masi GC dates from 1974 but it obviously isn't. I
> think the key to its date is the treatment of the ends of the seat and
> chain stays shown in the second from last photo:
> http://people.freenet.de/
>
> Looks like the way Alberto did them on his Masi Prestige; not the way
> Faliero did them on his Masi GC? Any Masi experts care to comment? >>
>
> Hardly a Masi expert, but I am pretty darn certain that those seat & chain
> stay ends (where they join the drop outs) are pre-formed in that shape,
> i.e., they are not hand filed or even belt sanded, the beveled ends being
> factory formed.
> They would have been ordered in just that way from Columbus, which saved
> labor. IIRC, there was a catalog page from which frame building ateliers
> could order a number of variations of stay end treatment.
>
> I would think that bike was firmly from the very late 1970s and more
> likely the 1980s.
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
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> On Apr 21, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Art Link wrote:
>
> > Masi GC, 58 cm,"updated" mods. on German ebay,no reserve. >
> > #330111863175 No relation to seller ,etc. Art Link,San Antonio,TX,USA
>
> The seller says this Masi GC dates from 1974 but it obviously isn't. I
> think the key to its date is the treatment of the ends of the seat and
> chain stays shown in the second from last photo:
> http://people.freenet.de/
>
> Looks like the way Alberto did them on his Masi Prestige; not the way
> Faliero did them on his Masi GC? Any Masi experts care to comment?
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA USA
> http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)