Oh please. I'm pretty sure your socialist ramblings aren't supposed to be posted on the list
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-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Emanuel Lowi Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:14 AM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: re: respray costs.
Peter Naiman wrote:
>
> Charles; I've heard of Mario's work when searching for renovations for
> my bikes before they come to the U.S.
> Work in the U.K. is substantially less, but then you deal with
> shipping costs, but since I purchase most Hetchins from the UK, I have
> the work done in the U.K. My 38 Anglo Continental had chrome work done
> on the front fork, plus rear stays, with a two colour scheme with full
> boxlining and transfer application at a total cost of under $600.
> For the same work over here, it would have been atleast $1000 or more.
> Not sure why the difference in costs, but labor in the UK may be
> substantially less, shops may not have to deal with as much government
> regulation etc, and other factors.
>
> As for Mario Vaz, I've heard varying reports from excellent work to
> fair at best, but everyones expectations can be differ. My
> understanding is that his work is very inexpensive. Mario may work at
> very low overhead but make it up in large volume. Even though his
> prices are very low, if he owns his building or his rent is cheap,
> and other overhead is very low, he may be
> perfectly content to charge his current rates.
>
> As for rates charges in the U.S., each shops overhead costs differ,
> with location and other factors affecting overhead costs. In general
> I've found the prices in CA much higher than shops in the Midwest, but
> I'm also assuming that operating in CA is probably much more than in
> Ohio with rent most likely the biggest factor, but labor is probably
> higher on the Coast than most midwest areas.
>
Addendum to Peter's post (and confirming his experience):
USA'ians factor in ridiculous health care & education costs, plus (unwittingly) huge costs of justice & bulging prison systems, environmental protection regimes (a good thing) and the ongoing price of far-flung wars in far-off lands.
Do not kid thyselves: these things add to the price of vintage bicycle restorations. There is no free lunch.
Excellent American paint job = nearly cost of a whole frame UK-side now.
Some day soon we may all be ordering fully chromed fancy lugged butted steel custom frames from China @ $200 each, by the dozen.
Emanuel Lowi Montreal, Canada (neither USA nor UK, thank G.)
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