Re: [CR]WAS: that old Cinelli, NOW: Altenberger derailleur

From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <marcus.e.helman@gm.com>
References: <OF3726774E.0ED520AC-ON852572E2.006061CD-852572E2.0060C7A9@gm.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]WAS: that old Cinelli, NOW: Altenberger derailleur
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:00:56 -0700
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I think the time line was most accurate on early '50's on the Altenburger components. I'll be selling a 56cm / 22" Durkopp road bike with an Altenburger rear derailleur, 4-sp F&S cassette hub. It'll also have NOS Altenburger wood reinforced sew-up rims, and Altenburger Synchon brakes, Scheeren aluminum bar and stem. Bike will available this fall, first to the list. When I was in Solingen, Germany, living at the Patria bike factory for 9 months back in '51 my bike had a 4-sp chainstay "A" derailleur just like you are speaking of. The parallelogram design worked very well with the closer ratios we used
then.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA

----- Original Message -----
From: marcus.e.helman@gm.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: [CR]WAS: that old Cinelli, NOW: Altenberger derailleur

>I have lost the link to the Cinelli we have been discussing.
>
> In the photos it looked like the Altenberger rear derailleur bolted
> directly to the chainstay. Is this correct? I would have thought that
> the chainstay couldn't handle the stress.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus Helman
> Huntington Woods, MI