Re: [CR]rear derailleur for 66 Carlton/Sun

Bob

Thanks for the useful details on Hurets from this period. Based on your Allvit info on the outer plate I presume the item 320118255748 should also be late 60s and appears to be in good condition; http://ebay.com/<blah>

I gather that the Allvit doesn't actually perform too well but am sticking to what's listed on the Carlton Huffy Corsair info; http:// http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/details/huffy.htm I've never identified the model of my Sun but from appearance it was a decal-less Carlton build from the same time with the same livery as the Huffy Corsair (although 5 not 10 speed), with nothing else to go on I'm following this to the letter for the missing components.

Cheerio

Julius Naim London, UK

On 26 May 2007, at 23:20, Stronglight49@aol.com wrote:
> Julius,
>
> This auction would be your late 1960s rear Allvit derailleur: item
> # 160119213905
>
> Huret changed the cosmetics of the outer plate around 1969 or 70 to
> look more like their others all of which had "HURET" over a star,
> against a recessed, textured background.
> This auction item is an example of that later (post-1969) cage:
> 160119213883
>
> The very earliest versions of the Allvit derailleur dating to
> around 1958 had no protective outer cage plate at all, so it looked
> more like the later Huret Luxe or Jubilee rear gears. The heavy
> chrome cage plate made the Allvit one of the most durable
> derailleurs available. Because it had entirely steel construction,
> it was suitable for use even on Juvenile bikes such as the Schwinn
> Stingrays or Raleigh Choppers - which would always be subjected to
> careless abuse. And even the shorter cage versions could easily
> handle 14-28 cogs - while many "racing" derailleurs of the day
> struggled with cogs larger than 24 or 26 teeth. The sturdy
> reliable construction made the Allvit a reliable workhorse which
> could be trusted on Touring bikes, as well. They worked very well,
> and shifted smoothly... so long as all the numerous pivots were
> kept well lubricated.
>
> The Huret "Luxe" was a prettier version of the Allvit, introduced
> around 1967, and without the heavy outer cage plate, it looked like
> the very earliest Allvit version. It shifted well, but was rated
> for closer range freewheel gearing. I think these were used for
> racing, and were really replaced by the all alloy, ultra-light
> "Jubilee" by around 1972-73
>
> The "Super Allvit" (the long cage version) was introduced a bit
> later (1973?) and these could handle freewheels of 13 to 34 teeth
> and chainrings or 26 to 53 teeth.
>
> The Huret "Svelto" was a less expensive stripped-down model without
> a bulky outer plate and first introduced in 1962. Unfortunately,
> the parallelogram was prone to flexing or twisting which impaired
> their shifting accuracy.
>
> Hope this info is of some use to you.
>
> Cheers!
> Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, NM, USA