... just realised how those rubber hand grips go on the keirin bars, no ... ... not with gas (like your dad's golf grips), although that is ok. ... not with PAM vegie spray, althought did it a bit. ... but with ... cheap hair spray! it's loose and then goes into sticky mode !! ... as for getting a two bolt Nitto post into one of those narrow saddles, i have no idea what i just did. ... must have been the vodka ... robert clair alexandria, va 22308