Re: [CR]Pogliaghi on ebay

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:58:05 -0400
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "John Betmanis" <johnb@oxford.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Pogliaghi on ebay
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I believe someone already mentioned that it appears this frame was converted from a track frame to a road frame, but the job was never finished (the fork crown and rear brake bridge were not drilled) for whatever reason. Take a good look at the rear dropouts: http://i21.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/a1/2d/946b_1_sbl.JPG You can easily see where the track ends were cut away and plates brazed in to make "vertical" dropouts. Not sure what the holes are for, unless they were intended to mount a reinforcing plate.

John Betmanis Woodstock, ON Canada

At 01:11 PM 06/06/2007 -0600, Mitch Harris wrote:
>But wouldn't a British path racer have at least the fork drilled and
>probably the brake bridge too? Strange combination of details to have no
>drilling for brakes on a bike with those braze-ons, even if you account for
>the BB shell by guessing the builder used a shell for a geared bike.
>Mitch Harris
>Little Rock Canyon, Utah
>
>
>On 6/6/07, Marty Eison <meison01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My daily search of ebay for all things Pogliaghi on ebay returned this
>> frame
>>
>> today.
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>
>> This bike intrigues me in that it has some features that don't quite make
>> sense to me.
>> It is advertised as a track frame but It appears to have vertical dropouts
>> in the rear,
>> There are cable guides under the bottom bracket, and water bottle braze
>> ons.
>> The brake bridge is not drilled (and is a different shape than my later
>> pog track frame has).
>> Lug treatment appears to be much less refined than on other
>> Pogs pictured on the CR website.
>> I've also never seen a Pog (although I haven't seen all that many)
>> with "Pogliaghi Italcours" stamped into the headtube.
>> What is this? was this an early Pog spec'd somewhat similiar
>> to a british path racer?
>>
>> Marty Eison
>> Frisco, Texas USA