Re: Re [CR]Unusual Paramount

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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:37:02 -0400
From: "George Allen" <jgallen@lexairinc.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: Re [CR]Unusual Paramount
References: <c74.1667b422.3411ebf0@aol.com> <b27bc5c00709061956i7ab2448bvbd2893ed1450c604@mail.gmail.com>
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Tam,

I think you nailed it. Those head lugs are an exact match as well as those rear drops and top tube cable guides. And kudos to whoever ID'd the extra rear eyelet for a chain guard. It's a shame everything else is gone. It would take forever to source fenders, chain guard, crank, etc., etc. The original in Tam's photo would make one cool townie. Does anyone want to e-mail the seller and tell him what he has and give him the link to Tam's photo? Maybe he has all the original parts in his basement. ;-) BTW, has anyone noticed the uncanny resemblance between Ed Granger and Major Taylor?

George Allen Lexington, Ky USA

Tam Pham wrote:
>LOL. I am also by far no expert on the subject either and am really just
>making guesses based on a lot of photos and information recently acquired
>from some serious Paramount fans.
>
>As reference, here is a 1952 Paramount Tourist which shares some
>very similar frame features to the auction bike:
>
>http://www.chainedrevolution.com/images/bikes/paramount/paramount52tourist.jpg
>
>Note that the head lugs seem to be shaped nearly identical and are chromed.
>Also, the "distinctive" rear dropouts are seem a perfect match. The cable
>routing under the top tube also appear to be the same. Too bad I can't make
>out the serial number on the dropout as that would be a great datapoint.
>
>Cheers,
>Tam Pham
>Huntington Beach, CA - USA
>
>
>On 9/6/07, Stronglight49@aol.com <Stronglight49@aol.com> wrote:
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>>Regarding ebay Item: 110166910438
>>
>>I am definitely no expert, but I believe they started using Nervex lugs
>>only
>>in the late 1950s... which would concur with Tam Pham's
>>date estimate. The
>>bike looks repainted and the seat tube decal band looks wrong as does the
>>down tube lettering decal. So, I think they were replaced some time
>>after the
>>re-paint was already completed. The pin striping could have been copied
>>from
>>the original paint scheme from the mid 1950s (was that called the
>>"Disneyland" style?). Maybe those were the only decals to be found at a
>>later time and
>>the awkward overlay across the pin striping was because the striping was
>>done
>>without referencing around an actual set of decals. Wish I could find
>>someone to do pin striping like that for me... but at a price I could
>>afford.
>>
>>Could those have been the rear dropouts for a model P11 "Tourist" which
>>featured a Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub and a chrome plated chain guard ...
>>as
>>someone had already suggested, that could be the use for the secondary
>>forward-mounted eyelet?
>>
>>I think the headlugs look quite nice. And all the chrome (re-chrome?)
>>seems
>>very good.
>>
>>Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
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