Re: [CR]Trying to identify my vintage track frame

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References: <999D6F75-E912-4DF8-9596-364F71113E43@carpenter.org>
To: taylor@carpenter.org, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Trying to identify my vintage track frame
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:29:58 -0500
In-Reply-To: <999D6F75-E912-4DF8-9596-364F71113E43@carpenter.org>
From: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>


<< ....pictures on flickr... http://flickr.com/photos/ofstuff/sets/72157603454513383/

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There are also some letters KGF (or CGF?) on the bottom bracket portion of the frame. Someone told me the WB made them think of W B Hurlow. >>

Taylor:

I would say it is definitely not a WB Hurlow.... Among other things, the seat stay top eye treatment is not his style.

Have you checked the threading in the BB? Because I would have guessed it's a French bike. That "squashed-and hammered" seat stay tops, plus (I think) Nervex Legere lugs, plus bb shell, all look very French to me...

I think the fork crown looks right too, I would guess it's a later 1960s to mid 1970s.

(Also, Taylor, please not the CR list requires a complete sign off on messages, incl fist & last name, city, state and country. See mine below...)

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina? USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com

-----Original Message----- From: Taylor Carpenter <taylor@carpenter.org> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 2:55 am Subject: [CR]Trying to identify my vintage track frame

I purchased a track bicycle from someone recently who raced the frame on the velodrome in Houston. He did not know what the make of the frame was... A couple of shops could not tell me. I have posted pictures on flickr...? ?

? http://flickr.com/photos/ofstuff/sets/72157603454513383/ ?

Has Brev. Campagnolo track drop-outs. Front fork may not be original. The crown does not match the lugs IMO. Also it is drilled for a front brake. The rear bridge on the frame is not drilled for a brake though. Rear spacing is 120.65mm. The hub and wheels are not original.? ?

Serial on bottom bracket is 18414 as far as I can tell. I noticed on the head that under the paint there is an outline of the letters W and B. Not sure if that was an old sticker or a logo that came with the bike originally. There are also some letters KGF (or CGF?) on the bottom bracket portion of the frame. Someone told me the WB made them think of W B Hurlow. One of his frames is? ?

? http://www.hetchins.org/hurlow01.htm ?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.? ?

Taylor?

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