Re: [CR]60cm HARAL Chambery curved seat tube and curved top tube frame on Ebay

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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:58:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "Guy Taylor" <guy.taylor@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]60cm HARAL Chambery curved seat tube and curved top tube frame on Ebay
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <740564.40261.qm@web44903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Norris, thanks very much for this information on Haral. I purchased a used Haral back in the 80's and have never found anyone who knows anything about it. I finally found a similar bike shown on the Campy Only site where the owner says only about a dozen were imported into the US. My bike appears to be older than the eBay example. It's a classic lugged rode frame with no bent tubes. My bike has no braze on fittings and no serial number; Campy Neuvo Record throughout,

Regards, Guy Taylor Anaheim, CA, USA

Norris Lockley <norris.lockley@yahoo.com> wrote: Well spotted, Don.

I know thie Haral company very well, ahving dealt with them in the 80s and into the 90s. It was a very professional set-up.. good large workshops..all very tidy and clean. They were based near Chambery in the Haute Savoie alps...I remember the first day I ever visited them...my wife thought that we were going to some exotic climbing and skiing gear shops in Chambery to get kitted out...until I showed her the office and workshop block in the corner of the industrial estate. I told her that she should be grateful spending her summer holidays on industrial estates in such a wonderful part of France. The Swiss type emblem on this frame is the emblem of Haute Savoie..so the frame is truly French..and top-of-the-range. The tubing is definitely not Reynolds or Columbus, but is EXCELL Mexico II series. The tubes were made by Gautier-Trousell of Longueville, near Paris for Excell. The gauge is .6mm, plain gauge , with a resistance to rupture of 1180/1380N/mm(sq)...it's wonderful stuff....weight for a set for a 56cm frame 1840 gms. In French parlance the frame is a Cadre Plongeant. I put a note about these tubes on my Flickr site..with some details of both EXCELL and HARAL

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclecrank

The look for th photos set called French cycle components

Norris Lockley..Settle UK

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