RE: LAM brakes, was: [CR]Hugo Koblet's 1951 La Perle T-d-F bike

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From: "Neil Foddering" <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>
To: <martin@team-ware.de>
Subject: RE: LAM brakes, was: [CR]Hugo Koblet's 1951 La Perle T-d-F bike
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:29:54 +0000
In-Reply-To: <479D028F.9060203@team-ware.de>
References: <713853.5814.qm@web44912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

LAM brakes, both steel and alloy, are listed in the 1939 Brown Brothers cyc le accessory catalogue. It's likely that they were available in France bef ore then.

Neil Foddering Weymouth, Dorset, England
> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:15:43 +0100
> From: martin@team-ware.de
> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: LAM brakes, was: [CR]Hugo Koblet's 1951 La Perle T-d-F bike
>
> I hope you excuse me to hijack that discussion a bit.. the La Perle is
> equipped with LAM brakes, and the text on the flickr album says they
> were common in the 40ies and early 50ies. My 1937 or so Automoto has
> them, now i'm wondering if they were original equipment or fitted at a
> later date. Does anyone have information on when they were introduced?
>
> Martin Appel
> Munich, Germany
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> Jan Heine schrieb:
> > At 5:43 PM -0800 1/25/08, Norris Lockley wrote:
> >> Some weeks ago in aburst of writer's enthusiasm I introduced this bike
  
> >> to members of the List...but never finished the second half of the
> >> story, about it's provenance.
> >>
> >> Any way..to get the show on the road again, so to speak, I have put a
  
> >> dozen or so photos of it, in a set, on my Flickr pages. The address is
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclecrank/sets/721576037933218821.
> >>
> >> If you want a slightly quicker address you can find the photos along
> >> with some others of a MECACYCLE Turbo frame on:-
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclecrank
> >>
> >> and then thumb through the phots and sets.
> >>
> >
> > Comparing your photos to the Rebour drawings of 1951 Koblet's Tour de
> > France-winning bike (reprinted in Bicycle Quarterly Vol. 2, No. 2), it
  
> > becomes clear that the photos show a different bike, not the one Koblet
  
> > rode in the Tour de France 1951.
> >
> > While the general outline of the two bikes is similar, there are a
> > number of discrepancies, such as:
> > - Koblet's bike used long dropouts, the one in the photos has short one s.
> > - Koblet's bike had a wrapover chainstay attachment at the seat tube
> > (very similar to Singer/Herse, etc.), the one in the photos does not.
> > - Koblet's bike had a seat lug that was cut away in a very minimalist
> > way, unlike the bike in the photos.
> >
> > It is unlikely that Rebour drew these incorrectly, or that they were
> > modified at a later stage. The only logical conclusion is that the bike
  
> > in the photos is not the one Koblet rode to victory in the 1951 Tour.
> >
> > Sorry to debunk yet another famous bike... but there are many more fake s
> > out there than real ones.
> >
> > Jan Heine
> > Editor
> > Bicycle Quarterly
> > 140 Lakeside Ave #C
> > Seattle WA 98122
> > http://www.bikequarterly.com