Re: [CR]Is the real or imposter?

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From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
To: Jack Fortune <jfortune52@gmail.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Is the real or imposter?
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:50:22 +0000


I think this DeRosa Hillary was not necessarily advertised as original finish, so braze ons could have been added.

I think there was discussion earlier that the bike Ken is selling is the same as the Green one that was for sale earlier on ebay and I think the photos are here:

http://www.43bikes.com/derosa.html

If you look at the upper headlug on the green bike that is "supposedly from 1953" and then compare with the upper headlug photo of Ken's bike now on ebay here:

http://ebay.com/<blah>

it would appear that the uneven lugline on the green bike is different than the current ebay bike. Perhaps, though, it is just the photo angle, or perhaps the original "error" was fixed up before it was repainted. Or perhaps there is no reason to assume that they are the same bike.

What does this all mean? I have no clue! What I do know is that there are few folks who can prep a bike for show as well as Ken.

Mike Kone in Boulder CO USA


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From: Jack Fortune

> > Even in the late 1960s, De Rosa still had his fork bend more at the bottom,

\r?\n> > see

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\r?\n> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/hilarystone/De+Rosa+late+60s/De+Rosa+late+60

\r?\n> s.jpg.html

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

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\r?\n> Can this frame really be from the late 1960's? Brazed-on water bottle bosses,

\r?\n> shift lever bosses, and cable guides. I'm not trying to challenge the assertion,

\r?\n> I just want to extend my education.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> regards,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Jack Fortune

\r?\n> Eugene, Oregon USA