Re: [CR]RE: CR]Reissued vintage saddles?

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]RE: CR]Reissued vintage saddles?
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, Steve Birmingham <sbirmingham@mindspring.com>
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I did find that the Selle An-Atomica needed considerable tensioning before use.  The same was true of the Persons #77 Deluxe.  Like you, I've neve r had to tension a new Brooks, or a new Ideale, for that matter.  Another thing I found was the underside of the Persons was quite dry or perhaps qu ite porous.  I usually treat the underside of a new saddle with Proofhide just to get it slightly moist.  With a Brooks, one application is enough to moisten the underside.  With the Persons it took several.  So both the Selle An-Atomica and the Persons took more setup than the minimal amoun t required for a Brooks, but once set up, both have been quite satisfactory .

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA


--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Steve Birmingham wrote:


From: Steve Birmingham <sbirmingham@mindspring.com> Subject: [CR]RE: CR]Reissued vintage saddles? To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 11:15 PM

The shop I work for just sold a Selle Anatomica, the first one we've done. While I'm glad it's being made,the design still needs some work. The tensioning is interesting, being an allen bolt reshaped to pull the nose out when unscrewing it. Good idea, but the structure it pulls isn't particularly stable. This lets the nose tilt and come off the tensioning bolt. I was able to put it back together pretty easily, but the customer couldn't. It all worked out in the end, but it is an area that needs attention. Perhaps BEFORE they get carried away with ostrich leather in colors. (Too late, I see they have several colors in stock)

I suppose we'll just have to pre-tension any others before sale, which seems to me to be something the factory should have done. The few new Brooks saddles I've had needed no adjustment in order to use them.

The final shape needed some help as well, since the slot makes the saddle spread when tightened.

All in all, a bit more work than a new saddle should require for use.

Steve Birmingham Lowell, Massachusetts USA

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, =09donald gillies <gillies@ece.ubc.ca> Cc: themaaslands@comcast.net Subject: Re: [CR]Reissued vintage saddles?

Actually, the Persons Majestic is a Brooks Swift clone, but with copper-pla ted steel rails rather than Ti. I think this was introduced before Brook s recently began offering a steel railed Swift. The two Persons models I su ppose are KOF, as these models are relatively recent, although the Person s company goes back to the 19th century, and the same family still owns it. If we are talking KOF saddles, don't forget the Selle An-Atomica sold b y Rivendell. This is an American-made all leather saddle slotted in the middle, very retro. One thing I find annoying about it is the model desi gnation "Titanico" although there is absolutely no titanium in it. Avail able in several shades of brown and black, plus red. I have a red one on my red 50th Anniversary Paramount.

Regards,

Jerry Moos