[CR]Ebay biddding collision

(Example: Racing:Jacques Boyer)

From: "Jim Ready" <jimr@rfj.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:15:28 -0700
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Subject: [CR]Ebay biddding collision

A recent auction displayed a phenomenon all of us using ebay might want to watch out for. Or at least it's my explanation for a unusually high price paid for a relatively common (off topic) item. Since we often bid on on-topic items I figure this is ok for the list.

Anyway a pair of barely used Chorus 10 speed metal Ergo levers went for $660.00 or so. Here's what I figured happened: Two bidders, unbeknownst to each other at the last moment (when we all bid anyway...) heaved in very high "clearing" bids, hoping to get above the current bid of already too much, ~$300.00. So they each figured "well it cant hurt to bid $650 or $700 , that'll make sure I clear the likely current bidder who probably is at 320.00 or so." Well two of those hit at the same time and you get a "bid collision" and the throwaway $600+ clearing bid gets turned into a very expensive reality.

Bidder beware...

Jim Ready
Cupertino, California USA


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From: Dale Brown
To: heine94@earthlink.net
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CR] Re: Using images; Was: Whining about Campagnolo:75 Years


of Cycling Passion


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> Jan wrote:
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> we'll be stuck with this information from an "authoritative" source.? >>
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> That is the real rub, this book will be used and quoted over and over
> again... Arrggh!!
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> Dale Brown
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> From: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>
> To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 2:01 am
> Subject: Re: [CR] Re: Using images; Was: Whining about Campagnolo:75 Years
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> At 1:42 PM -0700 10/26/08, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:?
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>>By the way, I must agree with the earlier comment that the Campy
>>book is not at all well organized. It is certainly not a
>>comprehensive history of Campagnolo, nor even a particularly
>>coherent one. But is does contain lots of interesting anecdotes and
>>lots of nice photos, albeit that some of the photos seem to have be
>>obtained discourteously if not actually illegally. I stiil think it
>>was a bargain at the $24 eBay price and maybe even at the $40 retail
>>price.?
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> As you say, if you treat it as a "Campagnolo scrapbook," then it may
> be worth the money. You get some nice photos, some good reproduction
> of random Campy catalogue pages and some anecdotes about how
> Campagnolo wooed the press and sports authorities into supporting his
> company.?
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> To me, the most grating part of the book are the many careless
> errors. I am afraid that we will spend a few decades on this list
> discussing whether Huret Jubilee derailleurs really were introduced
> in the 1960s (1972 appears to be the correct date), whether the
> Campagnolo Record derailleur dates from the mid-1950s (1962), and
> whether the Gino Bartali-Fausto Coppi rivalry lasted from 1950 until
> 1965... at which point Bartali had been in retirement for a decade,
> and Coppi had been dead five years!?
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> (The Coppi-Bartali rivalry was at its height in 1948, when they
> watched each other during the world championships, and each was
> unwilling to pull the other. The rest of the bunch left them behind,
> and both abandoned the race in disgrace. Coppi and Bartali did work
> together in the 1949 Tour de France, as I described in a chapter of
> "The Competition Bicycle" that shows their bikes from that race.
> Coppi came first, Bartali second, as a result of their truce.)?
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> A fact-check would have required little more than going to Chuck
> Schmidt's Campagnolo timeline and to the Wikipedia website. Instead,
> we'll be stuck with this information from an "authoritative" source.?
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> Jan Heine?
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