[CR]Re: Campy or Carlton "C".

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli:Laser)

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:34:18 +0000 (UTC)
From: <billydavid13@comcast.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: [CR]Re: Campy or Carlton "C".

Ted Ernst, w/ much experience,  argues that the ornate "C" which appea red on Whitworth dimensioned seatpost bolts on many Raleighs as well as axl e nuts for [non-Campy] bolt on hubs [Sturmey-Archer high flange on Raleigh Records?] stood for Carlton. My 1972 lilac Competition came w/ such a seatp ost bolt and i assumed, at the time, that it stood for Carlton. But i was s ubsequently informed by a shop owner that it was Campagnolo, and was a way of putting one piece of Campy on a bike. Typically SuperCourses and a bit a bove. The "C" is excactly the same as on the derailleur bolts on Campy
   Gran Turismos and Veloxes.  Here's what i think and would love to be corrected by someone who actually knows: The bolts and nuts were made by Ca mpy exclusively for Raleigh/Carlton in Whitworth dimensions. The fact that the "C" is ambiguous, standing for either Carlton or Campy is a happy coinc idence. It'd be interesting to know if these were spec'd for Carlton before
   the Raleigh buyout or after. We know Campy made a dedicated seatpost for t he narrow railed Brooks saddles, so they obviously had som dealings w/ the Brits. Enlightenment is desired!  Billy Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA.