Re: [CR]Diamant road frame

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To: mikael.gustafsson@saunalahti.fi, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <16691853.31321226072106008.JavaMail.narri@saunalahti.fi>
Subject: Re: [CR]Diamant road frame
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:12:57 +0100
References: <16691853.31321226072106008.JavaMail.narri@saunalahti.fi>
From: "Kai Hilbertz" <khilbertz@googlemail.com>


P.S. You can find two Diamants from ca. 1940 + 1962 here: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Germany/Diamant.htm

Greets

Kai Hilbertz Munich, Germany
> Nov. 07, 08
>
> Dear Mikael,
>
> it would be easier to identify the dropouts if you included a shot
> of the right dropout with hanger. I thought they were Campagnolo
> 1010B's, but mine look slightly different. The headset appears to be
> a normal steel Nuovo Record. Here are some dropout pics:
>
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Campagnolo/campag_frm_parts.htm
>
> http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cccycles.com/images/Cam py1010B_Small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cccycles.com/drop-out.html&h=13 9&w=125&sz=8&hl=en&start=9&um=1&usg=__77uMHZ2Lv7JuWUPunv4kVNQF 2SU=&tbnid=oB6pVO6vVl2wuM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCa mpagnolo%2B1010B%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozil la:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
>
> there might very well be other Diamants out there, but the only
> Diamant I'm familiar with is one of the earliest German bicycle
> manufacturers, they started out in 1885. After the Second World War
> they became an East German VEB = state-owned enterprise, the „VEB
> Fahrradwerke Elite Diamant“. Apparently all the East German racers
> used Diamants. So if the frame in question was produced before the
> fall of the DDR in 1989, which it definitely looks like, than it's
> East German.
>
> In 1992 the VEB was privatized as the „VEB Fahrradwerke Elite
> Diamant“ under the auspices of the Swiss Villiger company. Later
> Trek bought Villiger, and Diamant along with it. More info in German:
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamant_Fahrradwerke_AG
> http://www.chemnitzer74.de/chemnitz/diamant.htm
> http://www.diamant-rad.de/
>
> Greets
>
> Kai Hilbertz
> Munich, Germany
>
>
>
> On 07.11.2008, at 16:35, mikael.gustafsson@saunalahti.fi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> First I would like to thank you all who helped me identify the
>> mysterious B
>> ianchi I posted about some weeks ago. The bike was identified and
>> has now f
>> ound a new owner. It was far too special for my riding needs, it
>> felt like blasphemy commuting with it on our salted, rainy roads.
>>
>> I have come across a new bike now. A 80's Diamant road frame. As
>> far as I k
>> now it's Belgian. If anyone knows anything more about the tubeset,
>> or the b
>> ike in general, I would be really happy if you could tell me
>> something abo
>> ut it.
>>
>> Here is all the details I am aware of this far:
>>
>> Frame: Diamant decals, Columbus frame decal (80´s?), Designer 86,
>> Micro F
>> C-40 decal.
>> Headset and fork: Campagnolo, Nuevo Record?
>> Dropouts: Campagnolo (1010?)
>> Bottom bracket: Cinelli
>>
>> Bought it from Ebay, apparently never used.
>>
>> Here are links to the original sellers images:
>>
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant002-1.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant003.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant004.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant005.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant009.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant008.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant011.jpg
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant014.jpg
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much, it's been interesting and educating reading
>> all the po
>> sts from CR.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mikael Gustafsson