Re: [CR]18 Way to Know You Have Bike Culture

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net>, Amir Avitzur <walawalaoxenfree@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR]18 Way to Know You Have Bike Culture
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:28:04 -0800
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Let's not take this too personal or seriously. I chuckled a little with the actuality as it is in Denmark, coupled with some tongue in cheek. To understand it from THEIR society and how they view it, one has to have been there, stayed a while, and ridden bikes around the towns and countryside. I have done so. As as a country we have been so big and dominant so long we have tended to be more isolationist and become too provincial in many ways, so we don't really "get it", witness our standing in the world today when it comes to giving other countries respect, dignity, and understanding. In many countries the bike is THE MODE of transport. We are a car dominated society. Bike people here may be in some facets of our sport more a CULT than an actual CULTURE! It's always important to recognize and understand the difference. Ride your bike and enjoy! To hell with the rest! Loosen up those legs and
your brain.
Ride and let ride.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net
To: Amir Avitzur
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]18 Way to Know You Have Bike Culture



> Honestly, I didn't find it cute...nor on topic. Actually, I thought every
> item
>
> was contrived...and sensed an anti-car, anti-conservative,
> anti-libertarian
> agenda in it as well.
>
> One though was right on spot: "I just ride."
>
> Seriously, if someone feels the need to subscribe to some kind of
> "culture" as
> part of riding on or working with bicycles - I have to question why they
> are on
>
> a bike in the first place.
>
> Is it possible that it's because they have to, and hate it, and suscribing
> to
> a "culture" is their way of dealing with it. Maybe such cyclists really
> are
> envious of motorists? Jealous? Debate away...I have better things to
> do...
>
> In my case, I like bicycles. I like cars. I just ride and drive 'em.
> And
> even when I can't afford a car, big deal. I just get on with it...
>
> Even though I don't really listen much to Dr. Laura, one time I did listen
> in
> when she made a point that I think might just fit right in here...
>
>
> "There are two kinds of women. There are those who hate men. Complain
> about
> men. Attack men. Whine about this and that and equality outside and in
> the
> home...etc...and spend their life being miserable. Then there are those
> women
>
> who understand that men are born to women, raised by women, and married to
> women...and they use that power wisely."
>
>
> Maybe some cyclists out there need to think about the above and apply it
> to
> their cycling life, their relationship with motorists, etc...and give it
> some
> more thought.
>
> =8-)
>
> Robert Shackelford
> San Jose, CA USA
>
>
>
> Quoting Amir Avitzur <walawalaoxenfree@gmail.com>:
>
>> This is cute and, maybe even, on topic.
>>
>> http://www.copenhagenize.com/2007/11/18-ways-to-know-that-you-have-
> bicycle.html
>>
>> Happy Holidays
>>
>> Amir Avitzur
>> R"G Israel
>>
>>
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