Re: [CR]Ebay ethics, last minute bidding, sniping etc....

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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:24:08 -0500
From: "Noah John Gellner" <ngellner@gmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay ethics, last minute bidding, sniping etc....
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On Yahoo Japan's auction site sniping was eliminated by a rule that says that the auction ends 10 minutes after the last bid.

As an Ebay buyer I like sniping because I pick my number, set it up and forget it. My worst wins are where I was punching in numbers by hand. As a seller I'd prefer to see less last 10 second pops.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:15 PM, greg piwonka <paseone@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> i sorta think the problem is the idea that your "winning"
> something...rathe
> r than buying something.
> greg "lost plenty of items due to sniping, but thats okay" piwonka
> austin tx
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:01:36 -0500
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > From: johnb@oxford.net
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay ethics, last minute bidding, sniping etc....
> >
> > At 02:59 PM 23/02/2008 -0800, Derek Willburn wrote:
> > >Sniping has nothing to do with it. If you get beaten
> > >on ebay, it's because someone else was willing to pay
> > >more than you -pretty simple.
> >
> > Well, yes and no. Lately I've been manually sniping in the last half
> minu
> te
> > or so, but my maximum bid has been what I'd made up my mind beforehand
> th
> at
> > the item was worth to me. Sure, I could have entered that bid anytime,
> bu
> t
> > I've held off because so many folks get caught up in the chase and go
> ove
> r
> > what they originally figured was a reasonable maximum just to get the
> ite
> m
> > for an exhorbitant price. Some might even keep bidding to drive the
> price
> > up beyond what they would ever pay just to screw another bidder with
> deep
> > pockets who wants the item even more. In my opinion, that's quite
> > counterproductive because it artificially drives up price of that
> > particular item and affects future auctions. But that's how eBay wants
> it
> .
> > They want people to pay more than they really think the item is worth.
> > Otherwise, they could just make it a silent auction where everyone
> enters
> > their maximum bid with the highest one winning the item and no emotions
> > involved. I much prefer entering my maximum as late as is possible with
> m
> y
> > computer and connection and take my chances. If someone else outbids me
> a
> > second from the end with the help of software, so be it. Those using
> > sniping aids have already predetermined the maximum they will pay. If
> it'
> s
> > more than I'd pay, good luck to them. There's more fish in the sea.
> >
> > John Betmanis
> > Woodstock, Ontario
> > Canada
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