Re: [CR]Re: Campy dropouts: Italian vs Taiwan

(Example: Framebuilding)

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:55:34 -0800 (PST)
From: "jeffrey piwonka" <jmpiwonka@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Campy dropouts: Italian vs Taiwan
To: john@os2.dhs.org, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <47C71DB4.3070104@new.rr.com>


if you click the last link in peters post i think it was...then look to the bottom left picture and description...

"Campy 1010/B short horizontal dropouts made in Taiwan. Note the non-machined surfaces on the front dropouts and the non-parallel aspect of the opening on the rears. Also, there is significant extra metal, (flash) that has "squeezed-out" from the forging. This makes for extra work for the framebuilder. Also, compare the window opening with the Italian 1010/B's. Finally the tabs that get inserted into the stays must be bent inward slightly. This is not the case with other earlier versions of Campagnolo forged dropouts."

jeff Piwonka
austin, texas usa


--- John Thompson wrote:


> Peter Brueggeman wrote:
>
> > John et al, could you please say something about
> the aesthetic
> > differences between the Campagnolo Italian and
> Taiwan dropouts??
> >
> > http://www.velostuf.com/campy1010bitaly.jpg
> > http://www.velostuf.com/campy1010btaiwan.jpg
> >
> > Is there anything other than the embossing, which
> I do see looks quite
> > different? I don't have a great comparative eye,
> so some pointers would
> > be educational.
>
> As John points out, the forging is much sloppier on
> the Taiwan units;
> the slots are poorly formed, the faces on the front
> dropouts are
> unmachined. And they tended to have a higher failure
> rate than the
> Italian ones. IIRC, Yoshi Kono (3Rensho) in
> particular got burned by
> this. And Richard Sachs got his own dropouts made by
> the Italian firm
> that had produced Campy dropouts, although I don't
> know if this was
> directly a result of the poor quality of the Taiwan
> dropouts.
>
> --
>
> -John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
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