Re: [CR]Mystery touring frame

Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:04:59 -0500
From: "David G. White" <>
To: Peter Jourdain <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Mystery touring frame
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cc: Classic Rendezvous <>

Hi Peter,

The seller is not knowledgeable and I'm trying to get answers to questions, but it looks like 5spd 120mm spacing to me. Campy drop-outs, Campy headset, TTT Record stem with Cinelli bars, TA crank, Mafac cantilever brakes -- speculatively, those parts may be original? The Phil Wood hubs with Weinmann concave rims, Phil Wood BB, and the derailleurs look to me like upgrades done by a reasonably knowledgeable owner. But that's all speculation on my part.


David G. White Burlington, VT

Peter Jourdain wrote:
> Hi, David---
> Dynamo boss on the port-side rear seat stay strongly
> suggests French manufacturer. (Or, more remotely, even
> a custom American builder who was into dynamos.) Were
> the bike British I would expect it to have a
> fork-mounted lamp boss, not a dynamo. The boss itself
> is a somewhat distinctive design which might provide
> more our framebuilding pros could tell you
> much more. Pump pegs on the seat tube might further
> narrow the maker...Looks like Campy dropouts...What's
> the rear spacing, 6-speed/126?
> Peter Jourdain
> Working on it in Whitewater, Wisconsin
> --- "David G. White"
> <> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I've got an opportunity to buy a bike with a touring
>> frame that is
>> somewhat interesting to me. Not in great shape and a
>> rattle can
>> re-paint, with no obvious markings that I can see in
>> the photos. But
>> there are a few distinctive features on the frame
>> itself -- for example
>> the particular shape of the seat stay flutes and the
>> braze-ons for the
>> cable guides and stops on the downtube to enable use
>> of bar-cons.
>> Can anyone identify this bike?
>> Thanks!
>> David
>> David G. White
>> Burlington, VT