Mr. Broderick,
I have been sent material for VeloBase from many individuals throughout t he cycling community. If any material on VeloBase.com was scanned by yours elf personally please give me a list of these items and they will be remove d immediately upon request. I have referenced your wooljersey albums in th e past but can not recall all of what you had and what overlap there might have been. I apologize if there was some content sent to me that you hold copyright to. And again, I will remove it immediately once identified. I mean not to step on anyone's toes with their hard work. I do attempt to co ntact the owners of images and get their approval before using it on the si te. However when content is sent to me, I can only assume that they do so with the ability to share and allow me to host it. If you have any other i ssues, please contact me directly and we can certainly work this out. Than k you.
Jon Fischer Dallas, Tx
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From: rsb000@hotmail.comTo: classicrendezvous@bikelist.orgCC: cuda2k@hotmai l.com; oroboyz@aol.comSubject: An Open Letter To Jon Fischer / VeloBase And The CR ListDate: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:22:34 -0600
Jon, I am contacting you in response to your recent post to the CR List reg
arding VeloBase.com. As a direct result of said posting, I took the opport
unity to visit your website for the very first time, and in the course of s
o doing, availed myself of the opportunity to glance at those digital image
s of catalogs and other literature which you have available for public view
ing. It was at that point in time I was confronted with the ugly fact that
several of said catalogs, brochures, and posters were exact copies of ones
which I have either personally digitized from my own collection and posted
to WoolJersey or which appeared within copyrighted auction listings for ma
terial which I have sold on eBay. Sadly, I also happen to recognize more t
han a few other digital representations of literature which were procured s
pecifically from various other websites including EquusBicycle.com and seve
ral WoolJersey albums that are maintained by other CR List members. And wh
ile I cannot, nor would I presume to, speak for those other individuals who
se efforts and images are being re-used on your VeloBase.com website, I can
assure you that never once to my knowledge was my own permission sought, a
nd in any case it was absolutely NEVER given, that those images and copyrig
hted materials I generated be re-used by VeloBase.com. Therefore, I hereby
quite publicly ask that you immediately cease and desist all display, diss
emination, and re-publication of said materials and purge same from your we
bsite and its archives or otherwise face legal action instigated on my beha
lf to accomplish same in defense of my copyrights and those of others whose
legitimate permissions for exclusive internet republication I obtained. I
do not know the particulars of that process whereby individuals might submi
t to VeloBase.com materials for use on said site, although I would like to
think that Jon Fischer and/or one of his designates would make at least a r
easonable effort to vet said submissions so as to determine that they might
be used with permission of either the legitimate copyright holders and/or
those who took the time and effort to originally digitize such literature.
I can state that in my own circumstance, I have taken the time to do exact
ly that and that I have on file the express, written letters of consent fro
m the appropriate authorities. In fact, it is often the very time consumin
g and thankless process of securing proper legal permission for internet re
publication that has slowed the already tedious process of digitizing the l
iterally thousands of vintage cycling catalogs, brochures, posters, adverti
sing materials, technical publications, service manuals, and the like I had
thought to eventually have posted out to WoolJersey so that other parties
might make legitimate personal use of same in due course of pursuing their
individual passions and projects. I will be quite honest in telling all of
you out there on the CR List who might read this rather somber missive and
whom I generally believe to be upstanding individuals who have much to cont
ribute in your own right toward helping fellow cycling enthusiasts, if thos
e who would purport to support our vintage cycling community either cannot
or will not perform proper due diligence with respect to submissions they m
ight receive from others or which they obtain on their own so as to subsequ
ently promote either explicitly or through complicity of inaction the illeg
itimate replication without accreditation and/or wanton plagiarization of m
aterials generated by other parties, profiteering in the process through in
creased website traffic by having effectively represented these as being th
eir own, there is little or NO incentive for persons such as myself who att
empt to offer what assistance they might gratis to the masses by virtue of
open internet access. As a direct consequence of this unfortunate situation
, it is with great sadness and more than a few reservations that I have see
n fit to immediately place all of that material which I had previously post
ed to WoolJersey for the benefit of our greater vintage cycling community i
nto a password protected mode - effectively rendering it private domain onc
e again. Moreover, I am suspending all efforts on my part to further that
online resource by no longer working toward digitizing all of that bountifu
l resource of other material which I have on hand - possibly even going so
far as to consider scattering it all to the four corners of the world by du
mping it en masse on eBay. Only at such time as illegal copies of digital
materials have been removed from VeloBase.com and a public apology for thei
r (...hopefully unintended) replication is offered in this very forum as we
ll as the main web page of VeloBase.com itself, will I once again allow unf
ettered access to that library of materials which has been posted to WoolJe
rsey, resume my efforts toward growing the contents of same, and as before,
ask that fellow enthusiasts and CR List members be mindful of employing th
eir likeliness ONLY for personal use. Robert BroderickSioux Falls, SD - Uni
ted States ----------------------------------------------------------------
------------> From: cuda2k@hotmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:13:51 -0600> Subject: [CR]VeloBase.com February
Update> > > VeloBase.com February Semi-Monthly Update! (Classic Rendezvous
Preview, the> email to velobase users won't be going out till Tuesday most
likely)First > major update announcement of the new year. If you have been
keeping track o> f the announcements on the website some of this will likel
y look familiar. > First for a couple of stats. Velobase.com now has over 3
50 users, and over > 1550 bicycle components in the database. Beyond that t
here are now almost 1> 50 head badges, 90 vintage tools, 40+ frame parts, a
nd 67 catalog scans. Th> e site has been receiving somewhere between 1400 a
nd 2000 page views from s> omewhere around 200+ individuals per day. This i
s in no small part thanks t> o the contributions of many of those 350 membe
rs. Some of the most recent a> dditions to the Component Database include W
einmann 610 single pivot brakes> , Ideale 41 Sports saddle, Stronglight Mod
el 57 Piste crank set and a First> Gen. Shimano Dura-Ace (Black version) sh
ifters (and other parts). Some of > the newest head badges include J.R.J. (
early name for Bob Jackson built fra> mes), a Bridgestone Grand-Velo head b
adge and a JOCO brand (Dutch) badge. N> ew frame part additions include a b
ottom bracket and fork crown from Georg > Fischer and other parts from Camp
agnolo, Columbus and Reynolds.In addition > to many new items in the databa
ses, there have been a lot of new features, > pages, and elements to the we
bsite that I have been busy working on over th> e last couple of months. So
me improve navigation around the website, others> improve or increase the s
earch functions, while others are an addition to > the add / edit screens.
Below is a list of the more major additions to the > website since the last
major update. There are many other more minor change> s that can be review
ed in the News & Announcements section of the site.1) T> he second page of
the Standard Search is finally completed! Yes, the site h> as been up for o
ver six months and the second half of one of the primary fo> rms of search
was never completed. I knew that this hadn't been finished, b> ut just neve
r really got around to finishing it, instead working on other p> rojects ar
ound the website. One reason was I thought that very few people w> ere usin
g the standard search. However I was informed by a number of users > this w
as not the case when I tried to remove it from the left side navigati> on.
This prompted me to not only putting it back in the search list, but fi> ni
shing the second page's operation. Another case of user's input helping s>
hape the development of the website.2) The new Year Range fields have been
> added to the Component Database. These fields have allowed me to add a Ye
ar> s Produced to the Quick Search screen. These Year Range fields have inp
ut f> ilters that prevent any character other than a number put into the ex
act ye> ar section. A little touch to make things easier for users. Right n
ow the Y> ear Range Search will only work if you select one decade, but I w
ill hopefu> lly have this error fixed later this week. I also went through
every one of> the existing components and updated it to convert the old yea
r information> to the new format. There are still lots of components that n
ever had a yea> r range value, which is one area that I could really use so
me help in over > the next couple of months.3) Auto Complete drop downs for
the Name, Group a> nd new Model search text fields on the Quick Search pag
e. Start typing in t> he brand name, group name, or model name that you are
searching for and a l> ist of valid values in the system appear that you c
an choose from (or just > continue typing in exactly the search phrase you
want). Additionally I have> made it where you can search for multiple group
s or model numbers by separ> ating the values by ';'.4) Most Wanted Updates
List. Just like the name sug> gests, there are a lot of updates and missin
g data in the Velobase.com data> base and here is a place to see what needs
what information added. If you w> ant to help improve the information on V
eloBase.com, this is a very good pl> ace to start. You can filter what info
rmation, what categories, etc etc you> want to see the list for. By default
it shows the top 25 components that a> re missing Date Range or Flagged fo
r Incorrect Information. See the list he> re: http://velobase.com/
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