Paul Dismantle the body from the handlebar clip push them on (fairy liquid helps )Did 'nt have that product in my day! Mum's bar of carbolic soap did the tr ick. Doug
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0400> > From: grm1067@aol.com> > Subject: [CR] British Cycling Terms \u2013 a
few more> > > > > > Reading what John Betmanis and Doug Smith wrote made me
think that a coup> le > > of other terms.> > > > \u201cOil up\u201d \u2013 car behi
nd, already explained> > > > \u201cOil down\u201d \u2013 car approaching from the fr
ont> > > > \u201cEasy\u201d \u2013 shouted by the front man, telling those beh> > in
d to slow up.> > > > The urgency of these calls was determined by the loudn
ess of the voice.> > > > \u201cEASY!\u201d was accompanied a split-second later b
y sounds of Ma> > facs (best brakes in the world!) locking wheels.> > > >
\u201cPressures\u201d \u2013 High-pressure rims = Clincher rims> > > > \u201cTuggo\u201d
\u2013 derisively applied to cyclists tuggi> > ng a saddlebag behind them. Be
ing sensible, they were also riding pressur> es.> > > > \u201cThe bonk\u201d (aka
hunger knock) \u2013 caused by not eating> > enough, either before or during
the ride. The sugar level in the body go> es > > down and you end up feelin
g like death, sitting in a ditch, in the rain, > eat> > ing an apple. If yo
u are lucky, a real-friendly tuggo will stop, take pit> y o> > n you, and g
ive you a couple of sandwiches from his lovely saddlebag. Thi> s w> > ill c
hange your attitude to tuggos and people in general.> > > > Have you guesse
d who was in the ditch yet?> > > > \u201cBonk bag\u201d \u2013 Mussette, used to car
ry enough food to > > avoid being found in a ditch in the rain.> > > > \u201cD
ouble clanger\u201d \u2013 derisive term used by peopl> > e using Sturmey-Archer
hub gears to describe a front changer, and the noi> se > > made when changi
ng from one chainring to the other, stemming from the old> at> > titude tha
t derailleur gears were something foreign and noisy, therefore > not> > qui
te nice.> > \u201cCampag\u201d \u2013 the ONLY proper term for Campagnolo produ> > c
ts!> > > > I'm always a bit wary about recommending books, but, for those i
nterested> in> > an impression of Brit cycling in the 50s/60s, which broade
ns out into a > his> > tory of cycling, try "One more kilometre and we're i
n the showers" by Tim> Hi> > lton> > > > Geoff Margetts,> > Dreieich,> > Fr
ankfurt,> > Germany> > ____________________________________________________
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> BSA thread. It's quite thin enough without> > reaming more out of the ins
ide, so it may be worth checking yours to see > if> > it's inch or 15/16 >
> A French stem, or maybe a stem intended for a headclip type headset would
> be> > my first choice, as I hate modifying frames> > unless they're just
common modern stuff... and even then. > > > > Steve Birmingham> > Lowell, M
assachusetts> > United States of America> > (And a slow typist who kinda wh
ishes he lived somewhere like Agana , Guam> )> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 19
Mar 2008 09:28:22 -0700 (PDT)> > From: dean 53x13 <dpcowboy54@yahoo.com>> >
To: gpvb1@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> > Subject: Re: [CR]
Shrinking steerer tubes> > Message-ID: <794924.6566.qm@web56001.mail.re3.y
ahoo.com>> > In-Reply-To:> > <031920081413.29038.47E11F97000E12810000716E22
16548686CE0D909F09@comcast.> net> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset
=iso-8859-1> > MIME-Version: 1.0> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit> > Pr
ecedence: list> > Message: 14> > > > Reaming the steerer should be no probl
em...you are really not taking out> > very much material...do it properly,
with appropriate tools.> > > > gpvb1@comcast.net wrote: Yes - I have the sa
me issue with my 1937 Wastyn> > six-day racer.> > > > I purchased a nice ol
d Schwinn Paramount stem and bar for it, only to> > discover that it will o
nly insert a couple inches. I asked around, and wa> s> > told that 22.0 mm
steerers were often used 'back then.'> > > > Does anyone know the 'real tru
th?'> > > > Should I (we, both of us) carefully ream the steerer? I'm not i
n a hurry > to> > do that.....> > > > Greg Parker> > Ann Arbor, Michigan> >
> > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:19:18 +0000> > From: Neil Foddering > > To:
> > Subject: [CR] Shrinking steerer tubes> > > > I'm rebuilding my beautifu
l 1939 R O Harrison with Osgear ends at the> > moment. It has been re-ename
lled in what the enameller calls eau-de-nil> > -it's a pale pastel green -
with cream seat tube panel, and I'm very plea> sed> > with the colour schem
e. However, the bike and I are not speaking to each> > other at the moment.
I worked on it the day before yesterday, and> > thought I'd fit an R O Har
rison chrome stem I'd bought separately. Wrong> ! > > The stem is simply to
o large in diameter for the steerer tube. A search> > through my> > period
stems revealed that all my other handlebar stems wouldn't fit,> > except fo
r a new old stock 1930's Reynolds twin bolt. It went in for a> > few inches
, then stopped. Stupidly, I thought a couple of taps with a> > light mallet
would encourage it, and it's now jammed, without having> > gone much deepe
r. I wasn't been able to get to grips with it yesterday> > (58th birthday,
so otherwise engaged) and I'm dreading finding out that> > it's well and tr
uly stuck.> > > > Oddly, I've had the same problem with my 1946 Holdsworth,
in that case > > an A&P steel stem, which Hilary had to get a friend of hi
s to remove for > me.> > > > I've since bought the correct steel Holdsworth
stem, with matching lug> > pattern, > > at great expense, and THAT won't g
o in the Holdsworth's steerer tube eith> er.> > > > What's going on? I'd as
sumed that the internal steerer diameters would b> e> > standard. > > Hilar
y suggested that I use a French diameter stem, or track down someone> > wit
h a suitable expanding reamer, and have the steerer on each bike> > opened
out. I hate old bikes.> > > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? In
each case, the steerer is i> nt> > ended for a head clip type headset.> > >
> Neil Foddering> > Weymouth, Dorset, England> > > > > > _________________
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> Standard levers) though - does anyone have any tips or tricks for doing >
this?> > TIA,> > Paul Williams,> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada> > > ----- Origin
al Message ----- > From: "Neil Foddering" <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>> To:
<grm1067@aol.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>> Sent: Friday, March 21
, 2008 4:53 PM> Subject: RE: [CR] British Cycling Terms \u2013 a few more> > >
>> >> >> > There's a pair of honking rubbers on eBay at the moment - see:>
>> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/
> >> \u201cOil up\u201d \u2013 car behind, already explained> >>> >> \u201cOil down\u201d
\u2013 car approaching from the front> >>> >> \u201cEasy\u201d \u2013 shouted by the fr
ont man, telling those beh> >> ind to slow up.> >>> >> The urgency of these
calls was determined by the loudness of the voice.> >>> >> \u201cEASY!\u201d was
accompanied a split-second later by sounds of Ma> >> facs (best brakes in
the world!) locking wheels.> >>> >> \u201cPressures\u201d \u2013 High-pressure rims
= Clincher rims> >>> >> \u201cTuggo\u201d \u2013 derisively applied to cyclists tu
ggi> >> ng a saddlebag behind them. Being sensible, they were also riding p
ressur> > es.> >>> >> \u201cThe bonk\u201d (aka hunger knock) \u2013 caused by not e
ating> >> enough, either before or during the ride. The sugar level in the
body go> > es> >> down and you end up feeling like death, sitting in a ditc
h, in the rain,> > eat> >> ing an apple. If you are lucky, a real-friendly
tuggo will stop, take pit> > y o> >> n you, and give you a couple of sandwi
ches from his lovely saddlebag. Thi> > s w> >> ill change your attitude to
tuggos and people in general.> >>> >> Have you guessed who was in the ditch
yet?> >>> >> \u201cBonk bag\u201d \u2013 Mussette, used to carry enough food to> >>
avoid being found in a ditch in the rain.> >>> >> \u201cDouble clanger\u201d \u2013
derisive term used by peopl> >> e using Sturmey-Archer hub gears to descri
be a front changer, and the noi> > se> >> made when changing from one chain
ring to the other, stemming from the old> > at> >> titude that derailleur g
ears were something foreign and noisy, therefore> > not> >> quite nice.> >>
\u201cCampag\u201d \u2013 the ONLY proper term for Campagnolo produ> >> cts!> >>> >
> I'm always a bit wary about recommending books, but, for those interested
> > in> >> an impression of Brit cycling in the 50s/60s, which broadens out
into a> > his> >> tory of cycling, try "One more kilometre and we're in th
e showers" by Tim> > Hi> >> lton> >>> >> Geoff Margetts,> >> Dreieich,> >>
Frankfurt,> >> Germany> >> ________________________________________________
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ubject: [CR]For Sale: Clark's DT Shifter Cables Brown Teflon Coated> Messag
e-ID: <863745.99989.qm@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/pla
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t> Precedence: list> Message: 6> > While on the subject of British Cycling
Terms......> > I have 3 pairs of Clark's DT Shifter Cables available for sa
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----------------------> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:27:59 -0400> From: John
Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@b
ikelist.org>> Subject: [CR]Re: Now:_fitting_honking_rubbers> Message-ID: <3
.0.6.32.20080321182759.01375088@mailhost.oxford.net>> In-Reply-To: <023b01c
88b99$4fe9aaf0$0300a8c0@ourlaptop>> References: <8CA595DC64110BE-1720-13AF@
MBLK-M19.sysops.aol.com>> <BAY141-W234387C6E66715B9E856A2BF010@phx.gbl>> Co
ntent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> MIME-Version: 1.0> Precedence
: list> Message: 7> > At 05:19 PM 21/03/2008 -0400, Dr. Paul Williams wrote
:> >I got a pair of these honking rubbers from Pete Paine recently - I am d
amned > >if I know how I am going to get them on the lever hoods (early GB
Hiduminium > >Standard levers) though - does anyone have any tips or tricks
for doing > >this?> > I remember putting these on the plain GB brakes with
out adjusters and it> was not a problem. As with any rubber brake hoods, es
pecially if they are> older and somewhat brittle, it's better to remove the
levers from the bars> and disconnect the cables to do it.> > John Betmanis
> Woodstock, Ontario> Canada> ------------------------------> > Date: Fri,
21 Mar 2008 18:36:29 -0400> From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net>> To: "Cl
assic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>> Subject: [CR]Re: Now:_f
itting_honking_rubbers> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20080321183629.013caf38@mailh
ost.oxford.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> MIME-Versi
on: 1.0> Precedence: list> Message: 8> > I just looked at the eBay item in
question, No. 320230243229,> http://i23.ebayimg.com/
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:30:29 -0400> From: "Dr. Paul Williams" <castell5
@sympatico.ca>> To: <artlink@columnssanantonio.com>> Cc: Classic Rendezvous
<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>> Subject: Re: Re: [CR]Re: Now:_fitting_ho
nking_rubbers> Message-ID: <024a01c88bab$8cb77180$0300a8c0@ourlaptop>> Refe
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> > Art,> > That conjures up all sorts of images and is wide open to inuend
o - I am not > sure whether to involve my wife or not. I just mentioned you
r suggestion to > her. She laughed and said that would certainly work yand
that ou can also > warm them up in your hands or with a hair dryer - shame
the kids have only > just gone to bed!!!> > Paul.> > Paul Williams,> Ottawa
, Ontario, Canada> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Art Link" <artlink
@columnssanantonio.com>> To: "classic rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikeli
st.org>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:09 PM> Subject: Fwd: Re: [CR]Re: No
w:_fitting_honking_rubbers> > > > Try a little water based "personal lubric
ant". This won't damage the > > rubber and is really slick. Don't use to mu
ch or you'll slip over the > > bars.Art Link-a lover not a fighter-,San Ant
onio,Texas,United States of > > America> >> > "Dr. Paul Williams" <castell5
@sympatico.ca> wrote: From: "Dr. Paul > > Williams" <castell5@sympatico.ca>
> > To: "John Betmanis" <johnb@oxford.net>> > Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Now:_fit
ting_honking_rubbers> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:45:55 -0400> > CC: Classi
c Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>> >> > John,> >> > You would t
hink, but they are quite stiff and the hole relatively small - > > I> > won
der if a little heat would help, or talc as with later hoods?> >> > I did a
lso remove the lever from the lever body and this may help. I> > honestly h
aven't given it much effort yet as I am still a bit away from> > applying t
he brakes (so to speak!)> >> > They are quite nicely fashioned - they are c
opies of the original > > shockstops> > that Pete Paine had produced (as fa
r as I have been told) but are stamped> > clubhoods.> >> > Cheers,> >> > Pa
ul.> >> > Paul Williams,> > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada> >> > ----- Original Me
ssage ----- > > From: "John Betmanis"> > To: "Classic Rendezvous"> > Sent:
Friday, March 21, 2008 6:36 PM> > Subject: [CR]Re: Now:_fitting_honking_rub
bers> >> >> >>I just looked at the eBay item in question, No. 320230243229,
> >> http://i23.ebayimg.com/
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