The reason it makes sense to me is that there is no clear KOF rationale for components--is any Campagnolo OK before indexing? Is Superbe Pro ok since it's not following all the trends but staying N.R. traditional? Neither is persuasive. There just really isn't a strong KOF component line of reasoning.
Where you do see a KOF component made past 1984 such as a Super Record groups, TA Pro 5 Vis crank, or TA bottle cage, it's continued production of within timeline components. Someone could make an argument for KOF status if the Colorado venture produces new production ReneHerse cranks perhaps.
One could argue KOF status for something like Phil Wood hubs (even the cassette hub) which look substantially as they did within timeline even though they are different inside, but they are still largely continued production of within timeline stuff. Or I might consider any current production freewheel (or 144 bcd chainring) to be KOF since they allow continued operation of on topic bikes and components. But asking the list a question such as what current production freewheel is available for Record hubs is probably on topic anyway.
As for discussing any contemporary component that can be mounted on a KOF frame, that doesn't seem any different from discussing putting contemporary components on vintage frames, and I don't see CR as the place to talk about all the new stuff. But then my off-topic frames have on-topic components.
Not my call since it's not my list, but I'm fine with the current rule.
Mitch Harris Little Rock Canyon, UT
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
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