Re: [CR]3Rensho Allez - Some Help on Identifying

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:31:53 -0700
From: "Justin LaBo" <>
To: CR <>
Subject: Re: [CR]3Rensho Allez - Some Help on Identifying
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According to the photo in the link below, that model has chrome drop faces that are Shimano. The owner claims it is a 1982 model. I've read Konno used both Shimano and Campy dropouts on the Allez. Considering it also has the offset fork crown and thinned long point lugs, it appears to be true.

-Justin LaBo Oakland, CA

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Bill Roberts <> wrote:
> 3Rensho Allez were made in 81 and 82 - only.
> They are QUITE easily identifiable.
> 1 - Offset fork crown. Positioned forward of the steerer centerline.
> 2 - Chrome Campy drops. There is NO other Allez with chrome drop faces.
> 3 - VERY long point lugs, filed to impossibly thin points.
> 4 - Hard to discern, but dark, blood red, metallic paint, with Allez on the
> downtube
> Any bike with SE on the top tube, or which is blue, or has Tim Neenan on the
> chainstay, is NOT a Yoshi bike. These were 83 and later, made by Miyata,
> and perhaps others, and still very nice bikes. But not Yoshi
> "Special"-ized.
> It may be a bit hard to recognize these from blurry ebay auction pics. They
> are quite rare.
> Bill Roberts
> Jacksonville, OR USA