AW: [CR]eBay Colnago...is it real?

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From: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>
To: "'Marc St. Martin'" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: AW: [CR]eBay Colnago...is it real?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:50:12 +0200
In-Reply-To: <125528.1214404523477.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


As it is sold from Germany it could be a bike sold by the german wholeseller Stier. They once also were one of the biggest Campy distributors in Germany, situated in Stuttgart. Their housebrand was "Le Taureau", which means bull in french, like Stier means bull in german. I have heard rumours about Stier selling fake Colnago frames and having legal issues with Colnago for doing this. A lot of german distributors bought french frames in the 70ies and 80ies and sold them under their own brand names. So this would be a lead to this funny Colnago. It was suspected the Colnago Sport models where also sold by Stier without approval of Ernesto.

The seller of this bike alway offers a lot of bikes, he is a former racer and a cycling coach and had some negative feedback on ebay and in the german Tour Forum. Nevertheless he is selling some really sweet bikes.

Regards

Michael Schmid Oberammergau Germany Tel.: +49 8821 798790 Fax.:+49 8821 798791 mail: schmid@zunterer.com http://www.zunterer.com

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Im Auftrag von Marc St. Martin Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2008 16:35 An: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Betreff: Re: [CR]eBay Colnago...is it real?

Hello Listmembers,

Thanks to all of you who responded. You are very informative group. I think I'll hold onto my wallet this time!

Marc St. Martin Livermore, CA USA

-----Original Message-----

>From: Fred Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>

>Sent: Jun 25, 2008 7:17 AM

>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>Subject: Re: [CR]eBay Colnago...is it real?

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>Funny - when I looked at the auction's photos, my first thought was
something like "What do you know, a Colnago build in France!" :-)

> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)

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>--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:

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>> From: Dale Brown <oroboyz@aol.com>

>> Subject: Re: [CR]eBay Colnago...is it real?

>> To: marc.stmartin@earthlink.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 11:24 PM

>> I? think it's a fake... That fork has a Nervex crown,

>> lugs look all wrong, cutouts look "OFF".

>> Something is wrong here....

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>> Dale Brown

>> cycles de ORO Bike Shop

>> 1410 Mill Street

>> Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA

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>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Marc St. Martin <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net>

>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>> Sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 9:49 pm

>> Subject: [CR]eBay Colnago...is it real?

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>> Hello Listmembers,

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>> I think I'm hallucinating, but there's this

>> 'Nago on eBay with Reynolds 531

>> tubing. Also the seat stays look odd (suspect)? The lugs

>> look well finished and

>> the paint is sparing applied. Also, the seller has been

>> around for some time and

>> I have no reason to suspect him. Any comments?

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>> http://ebay.com/<blah

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>> My '75 Colnago is looking for a companion.

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>> Marc St. Martin

>> Livermore, CA

>> USA