[CR]1*3/16" Roller chain master links

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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:01:33 -0400
From: "Harvey Sachs" <hmsachs@verizon.net>
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, ternst1@cox.net
Subject: [CR]1*3/16" Roller chain master links

Thanks, Ted. I think I have a few new master links for 1*3/16 ROLLER chain, that my mother-in-law found somewhere and gave me. They look strange, because they are very short, just spanning the space between the close-together rollers. Those who are desperate may contact me.

thanks harvey sachs mcLean va 22101

Class time. Are we talking 1" roller or block chain? Diamond roller chains had the master male half of the link with the rivets that came through the link and protruded out the other side maybe 3/32". These two pegs not rivets had a cutout around the peg and the clip on plate was drilled so that the holes fit into the slot with the proper dimension. To install, one bends the chain so that the pegs get closer and the plate falls over and locks into the slot. The beveled edge is up or out, the sharp edge goes down or in as it were, and that sharp edge lets the plate pop off easier when the two pegs are "squeezed/ compressed closer. The older Diamond chains had a "hear it snap" stamped into the locking plate. This was probably a Diamond copyright. If your link has one side in the chain, and the other not, take a narrow plier and squeeze the exposed peg and the roller where the other peg is in the chain, and you should be able to get enuf pressure on the pegs to compress them close enuf so that the plate can be removed. Then you can turn the plate around and do it correctly when you put the chain on the bike. If you indeed do have a "block" chain, then I suspect it's not a correct master. I've not seen a snap link on a block chain that was later than the '10's maybe '20's. The English and others often used a nut and screw, where the master plate was threaded on one side. The little screw was installed and the nut screwed on and then tapped with a hammer to keep the nut from coming off and the chain from coming apart. The tightness of the master link could be adjusted for play using the screw and nut. Many block chain makers used a "C" clip that went into the slotted pegs. The loose plate was there to keep the pegs in the proper distance, the "C" clip acted as a keeper when pushed into position.I think Diamond was the only one that used the little spring and plate over the two pegs. One leg of the spring which looks like a skinny wire "C" clip in that it also fits into the slot/channel in the pegs. One leg went under the other like crossed legs and the keeper spring outer leg had a little arc in it where it went over the inner leg as it crossed over and locked into the channel. You can interchange some of the block masters if the pegs/rivets are the same size and the pegs are the same length to fit properly. Some chains have different diameter pegs/rivets/studs so they are either too loose or too big and won't go into the rivet hole in the block. If you have a genuine block chain and a roller master, then it won't work. The two types aren't interchangeable because the link sizes are reversed on block and roller chains even tho they are both 1x3/16" and will fit the same chainrings and cogs. Now it's your turn to see what you have and hopefully this will help you make it happy so you can ride it.
Happy 4th!
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


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