Re: [CR]Torpado or Italvega

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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:15:27 +0100
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CR]Torpado or Italvega
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Your frame is exceptionally similar to the Italvega Superlight I have currently for sale (370067275982) - however were Italvegas actually sold in Germany or was it only an American brand? Was yours found in Germany? I had a Torpado Superlight earlier in the year that was from the late 70s that was very similar to the Italvega SL except that it had Campy short dropouts and a round chainstay bridge.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

Marc Oliver Künne wrote:
> Whow that`s really great,
>
> Thank you all for twisting your minds and the profound answers you gave.
> I heard about the maillist and Mark Agree before I tried CR but what I
> learned was more than I ever expected.
> I was very happy if I could get some pictures because I'll try to do the
> repaint in a nearly original style/colour.
> It was also great if anyone could say something about the equipment.
> Possibly I don't have to buy Campy Parts for it!?
> If it's OK i'll send photos to you Mark Agree:
>
> Thank you to all of you
>
>
>
> FujiFish1@aol.com schrieb:
>>
>>
>> Marc sez:
>>
>> I bought a vintage bike, sold to me as a GIOS. Doing some research I
>> found out that it may be either a TORPADO or a ITALVEGA. I`m not
>> worried about that it si NOT a GIOS but for a proper restoration I
>> need more information about built and year. It has some characteristcs
>> of the "superlight" and some of the "super record". It is equipped
>> with a Shimano Crane rear derailleur, Dura Ace 1st gen. front
>> derailleur, crank set, headset and brakes/brake levers a 3ttt stem
>> the 3ttt supperleggero handlebar, There are no Braze-on cableguides
>> and the rear wheel space is 120mm.
>> I was happy if anybody could help.
>>
>> Pictures are here:
>>
>> http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=439463
>>
>> and here:
>>
>> http://forum.tour-magazin.de/showthread.php?t=141805
>>
>> Thank You
>>
>> Marc Oliver Kuenne, Wegberg, Germany
>>
>>
>> Mark (Ritz) sez:
>>
>>
>>> There are many similarities between the two brands, since they
>>> were built in the same factory. My guess is Torpado, as the shape
>>> of the stay caps looks a little different from the ItalVega
>>> Superlight/Super Speciale as I remember it. The parts are certainly
>>> not ItalVega specification. Mark Agree might be some help. Mark,
>>> you out there?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mark Ritz
>>> In very smokey Arcata, California, USA
>>>
>>
>> I have been looking at Bulgier's catalog,and a scan of a negative
>> that has my friends ca 1973 Superlight in it.
>> The caps look like the 76 Superlight in Bulgier's catalog and my
>> friend's Superlight to me. I think it is called a concave curve.
>>
>> BUT...over on BF, one of our fellow CR types pointed out the routing
>> of the derailleur cables. They go under the BB. The sources I have
>> show them over. Later year? When did the Italvega marque die?