[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 67, Issue 104

Dear Michael,

I am interested in the shoes, but can't access the link. can you send me det ails off line. I assume these are in Germany, any Idea of postage to the UK. I'm looking for classic pinked shoes size 47 (uk 12).

Regards David Stacey County Durham UK

schmid@zunterer.com ww.zunterer.com

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R Today's Topics: 1. Re: Legnano Gran Premio: minimum seatpost insertion (M-gineering) 2. RE: Huret infos (CyclArt Shop) 3. FS 18 pairs of classic shoes (Michael Schmid) 4. AW: [CR]FS 18 pairs of classic shoes (Michael Schmid) 5. Suntour superbe shifters (Charles Hobbs) 6. Conti Bike form Italy (Robert Cleary) 7. re: KOF Lugged Steel 2009 Bianchi Dolomiti and more (Mark Poore) 8. Info wanted on J. Moyne freewheels (Dr. Paul Williams) 9. Conti Bike form Italy (Angel Garcia) 10. Re: re: KOF Lugged S teel 2009 Bianchi Dolomiti and more (Angel Garcia) 11. Kapu, Dolomiti and Tyler too... (Dale Brown) 12. Re: Conti Bike form Italy (jeffrey piwonka) 13. RE: AW: [CR]FS 18 pairs of classic shoes (john power) 14. Re: Kapu, Dolomiti and Tyler too... (Derrick Bourgeois)

--------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:07:35 +0200 rom: M-gineering <info@m-gineering.nl> c: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org ubject: Re: [CR]Legnano Gran Premio: minimum seatpost insertion essage-ID: <48920D77.4070309@m-gineering.nl> n-Reply-To: <ea2e86bf0807311105q6f6af813r229c0d3f88ad1620@mail.gmail.com> eferences: <ea2e86bf0807311105q6f6af813r229c0d3f88ad1620@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recedence: list essage: 1 ryan hildebrand wrote: Can anyone tell me what the minimum safe insertion depth would be? How far below the bolt should the seatpost extend? The bike in question has the 3 piece binder bolt in front with no slot, identical to that shown here (not mine):

http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o476/chileros_bikes/Legnano%20Gran%20Pre mio%201966/?action=view&current0_1009.jpg

'd say 1" past the bolt minimum, for the average american 2" might be afer ;)

- vg Marten Gerritsen iel Windeweer etherlands ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:21:08 -0700 rom: "CyclArt Shop" <shop@cyclart.com> o: "C R List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: RE: [CR]Huret infos essage-ID: <DAECJCGMAPNDNDBOEMIKCEFIHAAA.shop@cyclart.com> n-Reply-To: <20080731084504.169050@gmx.n et> ontent-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recedence: list eply-To: shop@cyclart.com essage: 2 Kim et al., Unfortunately, it's not all there. Unless I am badly misunderstanding him, harles has a later version (ca. 1980) that is designed to hang from a ampagnolo-style dropout. The variant is seen here: ttp://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/broderir/Catalogs-Posters/Huret/1979-05- .jpg.html here the adjusting screw and upper tang are visible. This is the only icture of this I can see; I have found no exploded diagram in that scanned ollection that shows this assembly. However, I do have, here in the shop, n actual Jubilee derailleur that has that actual assembly. (I will provide hotos if anyone would like them.) In this case, the simplest solution is best. The "locknut" is no solution at ll. Depending on which side of that plastic claw it is mounted, it will egate the function of either the upper tang or lower stop screw (unless you an find a M10 x 1mm nut that is also 1mm thick, and a cone wrench to fit t.) Without both of those working, the claw is useless. Kevin's set-screw olution is irreversibly damaging, but at least retains the function of the lastic claw. My solution of using some sort of threadlocker is simple, eversible, and effective. Greg Reiche yclArt ista, CA USA -----Original Message----- rom: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of kim klakow ent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:45 AM o: chasds@mindspring.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.or g ubject: [CR]Huret infos

think all the questions should be solved by delving into Robert Brodericks xellent scans of a whole slew of Huret catalogs to be found under: http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/broderir/Catalogs-Posters/Huret/ It's all there, ... kim - im Klakow Diplom Grafik Designer kimbo71@gmx.net 49172-1786481 erlin - Germany Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten rowser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ______________________________________________ lassicrendezvous mailing list lassicrendezvous@bikelist.org ttp://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:32:05 +0200 rom: "Michael Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de> o: "'Classic Rendezvous'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: [CR]FS 18 pairs of classic shoes essage-ID: <000001c8f354$e118a3f0$fe78a8c0@Twinhead> n-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP2422184CDE98334C1CA1DBE47C0@phx.gbl> ontent-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recedence: list essage: 3 Dear list members, One of my local bike stores gave me a total of 18 pairs of classic shoes o offer to this list. Most of them are fitted for classical toe-clip edals and come with the proper cleats but also can be ridden with Look attern cleats. Some pairs are PUMA Touring models without the cleat ption but with a nice stiff sole suitable for riding as well as for alking. Nice commuter shoes. heck out the shoes in my special Wooljersey al bum here: http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Drexl/shoes_001/ I have noted the Euro and Dollar prices the dealer is asking, some rices might be negotiable upon request, please doe understand that i am or responsible for this pricing but rebates for moer than one pair will e given. Shipping will be at cost, usually I can ship for 20 $ to all tates in the US, other designations are possible, just ask. And do not forget, these kind of shoes are harder to get any day. Regards Michael Schmid berammegau ermany el.: +49 8821 798790 ax.:+49 8821 798791 ail: schmid@zunterer.com ww.zunterer.com

----------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:47:47 +0200 rom: "Michael Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de> o: "'Classic Rendezvous'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: AW: [CR]FS 18 pairs of classic shoes essage-ID: <000201c8f357$12bd4f80$fe78a8c0@Twinhead> n-Reply-To: <000001c8f354$e118a3f0$fe78a8c0@Twinhead> ontent-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" IME-Version: 1.0 recedence: list essage: 4 I forgot to mention that the sizes ans prices will appear in the icture's comments and descriptions when you click on them. orry for that Michael Schmid berammergau ermany el.: +49 8821 798790 ax.:+49 8821 798791 ail: schmid@zunterer.com ww.zunterer.com

----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- on: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Im Auftrag von Michael chmid esendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2008 23:32 n: 'Classic Rendezvous' etreff: [CR]FS 18 pairs of classic shoes

ear list members, One of my local bike stores gave me a total of 18 pairs of classi c shoes o offer to this list. Most of them are fitted for classical toe-clip edals and come with the proper cleats but also can be ridden with Look attern cleats. Some pairs are PUMA Touring models without the cleat ption but with a nice stiff sole suitable for riding as well as for alking. Nice commuter shoes. Check out the shoes in my special ooljersey album here: http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Drexl/shoes_001/ I have noted the Euro and Dollar prices the dealer is asking, some rices might be negotiable upon request, please doe understand that i am or responsible for this pricing but rebates for moer than one pair will e given. Shipping will be at cost, usually I can ship for 20 $ to all tates in the US, other designations are possible, just ask. And do not orget, these kind of shoes are harder to get any day. Regards Michael Schmid berammegau ermany el.: +49 8821 798790 ax.:+49 8821 798791 ail: schmid@zunterer.com ww.zunterer.com

______________________________________________ lassicrendezvous mailing list lassicrendezvous@bikelist.org ttp://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:27:38 -0600 rom: "Charles Hobbs" <hobbs.charles1@gmail.com> o: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org ubject: [CR]Suntour superbe shifters essage-ID: <36a79ac00807311527k3a2a6484t522a2e857586ffe8@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recedence: list essage: 5 Wanted to Buy: Suntour Superbe downtube shifters, braze on, not Suberbe ro. Thanks Charles Hobbs ort Morgan20Colorado SA

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eam,

pologies for this email out of the blue, but the folks at Cycles de Oro uggested that I send an email out regarding what I think might be a somewh t rare bike. I've checked out Rendezvous Italian section for inforamtion o the brand and it's not listed. Basically, I'm trying to find out more a out a hand made bike from Florence called a "Conti." This particular one i metallic blue and made in 1986. It's in beautiful shape except for the ti es. I'm not sure about the components, rims, etc. but I can get that i formation and forward that on. Any idea or information on it is greatly ap reciated.

hanks obert Cleary an Francisco, CA SA ________________________________________________________________ eep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. ttp://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ amily_safety_072008

-- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- ultipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html -- ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) rom: Mark Poore <rauler83@yahoo.com> o: classicrendezvous@bikelist.or g ubject: [CR]re: KOF Lugged Steel 2009 Bianchi Dolomiti and more essage-ID: <140478.66843.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 IME-Version: 1.0 recedence: list eply-To: rauler83@yahoo.com essage: 7 With the Bianchi Dolomiti, the introduction of the new retro Rauler in two odels and this Kona that a friend is thinking of buying we might be seeing a resurrection of sorts in the industry. While Kona doesn't come with a lo g history of making bikes, I believe this might be the first lugged bike t ey have made, it gives one additional hope for the future and the offer i gs that might come. Do they qualify to be a KOF? I do like the discription of the bike: "New this year to the Kona Road program is the Kapu. A beauti ul, old school lugged frame that harks (yep... used the word "hark") back o when frames were meticulously crafted in only small batches by guys name Giuseppe." ttp://www.konaworld.com/08_kapu_w.htm

ark Poore latyfork, WV SA

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:56:51 -0400 rom: "Dr. Paul Williams" <castell5@sympatico.ca> o: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: [CR]Info wanted on J. Moyne freewheels essage-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2013B7A4705F4BC76FC33CE47C0@phx.gbl> ontent-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" IME-Version: 1.0 recedence: list essage: 8 Is there any info out there about J. Moyne freewheels? There doesn't eem t o be anything on the web or in the archives. I just got a nice 18T S freewheel with oiler clip from Amir Avitzur and was curious as to ate and about the company itself Paul.

Paul B. Williams, BAH, MPhil, PhD ttawa, Ontario, Canada astell5@sympatico.ca.

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:58:08 -0400 rom: "Angel Garcia" <veronaman@gmail.com> o: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: [CR]Conti Bike form Italy essage-ID: <70e14d4c0807311658l73bc4cf8se1f0ba7e1ffeb0bb@mail.gmail.com> n-Reply-To: <70e14d4c0807311657r711913d9p120d64f3ad0bf900@mail.gmail.com> eferences: <BLU149-W534B94956B7845A0DBC78CC07C0@phx.gbl> <70e14d4c0807311657r711913d9p120d64f3ad0bf900@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recedence: list essage: 9 Lou Deeter's BIKE GUIDE says: *CONTI*: Italy. Also made Ciocc. Shop is in Bologna. 011-39-2-9094973. idden by Navigure-Blue Storm team in 94.

Angel Garcia Long Valley, NJ On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Robert Cleary <clearyhome@hotmail.com>wro te:
> Team,

Apologies for this email out of the blue, but the folks at Cycles de Oro suggested that I send an email out regarding what I think might be a somewh at rare bike. I've checked out Rendezvous Italian section for inforamtion o n the brand and it's not listed. Basically, I'm trying to find out more a bout a hand made bike from Florence called a "Co nti." This particular one i s metallic blue and made in 1986. It's in beautiful shape except for the ti res. I'm not sure about the components, rims, etc. but I can get that i nformation and forward that on. Any idea or information on it is greatly ap preciated.

Thanks Robert Cleary San Francisco, CA USA _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ family_safety_072008

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-- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- ultipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html -- ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:05:08 -0400 rom: "Angel Garcia" <veronaman@gmail.com> o: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: Re: [CR]re: KOF Lugged Steel 2009 Bianchi Dolomiti and more essage-ID: <70e14d4c0807311705r2b3c6595l8e92a533188dbb75@mail.gmail.com> n-Reply-To: <140478.66843.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> eferences: <140478.66843.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recedence: list essage: 10 I agree that people in the industry are taking note of the interest in ugged steel. My friends at Chesini in Verona also started buil ding some ice frames earlier this year; photos of a few of them are in my blog at: ttp://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2008/06/another-custom-chesini-trac k-frame.html http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2008/04/chesini-track-and-fixed-ge ar-frames.html Angel Garcia erona, Italy n Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Mark Poore <rauler83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> With the Bianchi Dolomiti, the introduction of the new retro Rauler in two models and this Kona that a friend is thinking of buying we might be seeing a resurrection of sorts in the industry. While Kona doesn't come with a lo ng history of making bikes, I believe this might be the first lugged bike t hey have made, it gives one additional hope for the future and the offeri ngs that might come. Do they qualify to be a KOF? I do like the discription of the bike: "New this year to the Kona Road program is the Kapu. A beauti ful, old school lugged frame that harks (yep... used the word "hark") back to when frames were meticulously crafted in only small batches by guys name d Giuseppe." http://www.konaworld.com/08_kapu_w.htm

Mark Poore Slatyfork, WV USA

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Looks like the "Kapu" (Gesundheit)? and the "Dolomiti" are made by the same aiwan factory. I guess they are both technically KOF but somehow I feel we are stretching t hat efinition to a dangerously weak degree. Maybe KOF also means "Kapitalizers O f he Fad"?

ale Brown reensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- rom: Mark Poore <rauler83@yahoo.com> o: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org ent: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 7:49 pm ubject: [CR]re: KOF Lugged Steel 2009 Bianchi Dolomiti and more

ith the Bianchi Dolomiti, the introduction of the new retro Rauler in two odels and this Kona that a friend is thinking of buying we might be seeing a resurrection of sorts in the industry. While Kona doesn't come with a lo g history of making bikes, I believe this might be the first lugged bike t ey have?made, it gives one additional hope for the future and the offeri gs that might come. Do they qualify to be a KOF? I do like the discription of the bike: "New this year to the Kona Road program is the Kapu. A beauti ul, old school lugged frame that harks (yep... us ed the word "hark") back o when frames were meticulously crafted in only small batches by guys name Giuseppe." ttp://www.konaworld.com/08_kapu_w.htm

ark Poore latyfork, WV SA

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     CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> ubject: Re: [CR]Conti Bike form Italy essage-ID: <396969.58815.qm@web82701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> n-Reply-To: <70e14d4c0807311658l73bc4cf8se1f0ba7e1ffeb0bb@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 IME-Version: 1.0 ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit recedence: list essage: 12 i guess this is the same maker. ttp://velospace.org/node/284 the geometry on this one looks pretty serious. jeff piwonka ustin, texas, usa